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I agree with your understanding of the chosen with this caveat. The Greek is specific about the called out ones, (the chosen). It specifically communicates that a small group is called out from among a larger group that isn't called. I understand those to be the chosen in my understanding. But...

Can you describe the obedient acts that meet the condition to recieve the Spirit of Christ?

Again, the context of this thread is the Salvation process. Obviously a child wouldn't be in the salvation journey yet. So you seem to be evading this simple discussion, I guess I miss read you. Sorry for wasting your time.

Ya I have EG on ignore.

I agree, salvation is conditional. But we haven't gotten to any of those conditions in the discussion yet. So I'm not sure why you think I'm saying everyone is saved unconditionally. The only happenings in the salvation journey I've put on the table for agreement so far are that we are born...

First happening. 1) We must be born into this world. 2) As the result of being born into this world, we are under Grace in this respect. Christ bought the entire field to get the treasure out out it. As the result of being born into this world, we are part of this field. At this beginning stage...

Ok pearl no worries. If you don't understand, you probably shouldn't agree with the information I put forth.

# 24 I'm trying really hard to look at this journey one happening at a time, in the simplest terms i can. First happening. 1) We must be born into this world. 2) As the result of being born into this world, we are under Grace in this respect. Christ bought the entire field to get the treasure...

What I'm asking is in post 24. Basically, it's that simple, we are not saved coming out of the womb. I'll wait to let some others chime in before I go to the next step of the salvation process. Hopefully we can get a few others that agree to move ahead with this discussion.

"Salvation journey thread"

If your describing Grace through Faith i agree. But this thread is about looking at what specifically must happen in-between being a sinner and a saint. You didn't say whether you agreed with post 24, the very start of that process.

Once we establish the point in the salvation journey were that's relevant, sure. Right now I can't even find someone to agree with the state of being were born in. LOL post 24

Were not there yet pearl. Just trying to establish the condition we are in once we are born into this world. Do you agree with post 24?

Hi Ernest, liked some of the understandings you've written about Faith and the application of said Faith. I was hoping we could find some common ground to see how far we could get talking through the salvation process. I'm trying really hard to look at this journey one happening at a time, in...

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I'm looking for an honest discussion.

Ok Cassandra, thanks for an honest reply. I'm hoping Ernest chimes in.

Your misrepresenting what I've said. I'm going to put you on ignore for this thread, sorry EG.

Do you agree with this starting point?

My point is we all start at a place where we are apart of the field Christ has purchased, but at this point, we haven't received the Spirit f Christ yet. Try not to jump ahead.