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The op is about Hell Fire. I was simply explaining that "Hell" as most understand it, isn't a Biblical concept.

The concept of Hell as place of eternal concious torment is not taught in the Bible. It comes from Greek Philosphy. For there to be a place of eternal torment man you need to be immortal. However the apostle Paul informs us that the Father alone is immortal. Man is mortal and he will die. Hell...

Huh?

That passage is poorly translated. The letter is addressed to Jewish Christians and actually reads, 'to the elect pilgrims of the dispersion.' It's not saying someone was elect because of foreknowledge.

OZ---I have nothing invested in my view except for careful exegesis of Scripture. I believe in another thread you said you had several degrees. If so those degrees cost money didn't they? You said yo teach NT Greek. If that's in a school, most schools require one to hold certain views. OZ---I...

Oz, It's obvious to me that you have a lot invested in your view and it would be too costly to consider something else. I think anyone reading 1 Cor 13 can easily see that Paul compares, In part, and maturity with, I was a child and now a man, I see though a glass darkly but then face to face...

Hi The Barrd, I'm not that much younger and I too remember those days. However, just because things were better doesn't mean this was a Christian nation. Having studied the earliest Christian doctrines It's become clear that one cannot have a Christian nation. For the first 300 years of...

Oz, You are . Paul says nothing about seeing God face to face. Nothing! That's simply something you added to your interpretation of the passage. You're not going to see anyone face to face, just like you're not looking into a mirror. The statement is a comparison, an example. You said you...

Oz, I did deal with the passage. You're just imposing you view on Scripture. Paul says nothing about seeing God face to face. The statement about seeing face to face is in contrast to seeing through a glass darkly. Now this, then that. You're drawing inferences from the passage. Your...

One of the reasons that Christians are hated so much is because they won't stay out of government. Too many have the erroneous idea that Christians are supposed to make America a Christian nation. That's not possible. IF Christians stayed out of government and spread the gospel things would be...

Oz, I didn't miss that. It's simply and explanation. Paul didn't say anything at all about being face to face with God. He compares seeing through a glass darkly with seeing face to face. When one looks through a dark glass things are not always clear. Some thing may be distorted. However, when...

Hi The Barrd, The Greek word translated "perfect" means mature or complete. Notice Paul's example of going from boyhood to manhood. He said knowledge and prophecy were in part but when the completion comes that which is in part shall be done away with. What was the knowledge and prophecy that...

I could post 1 Cor. 13. It's pretty clear, prophecies, tongues, and knowledge will cease.

Those gifts ceased. They were given to validate the Apostles as genuinely from God.

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Could be!

That passages isn't about hell.

What does this passage have to do with man having free will?

I've already shown you that Paul said he preached "NOTHING" other than what Moses and the Prophets said would come. That means what he preached came from Moses and the Prophets, not some other Gospel revealed to Him and no one else. Peter too preached what the Prophets said would come. The...