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  1. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Read it out of context and merely get the out of context knowledge in return. That chapter does does minister or witness about before the Great Tribulation, but rather 'after' and judgement prounced on fallen Babylon. Where in the 'first resurrection' of dead and living in Christ, from the...
  2. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    The scripture does, but you're 'shortsighted' unable to 'see' afar these things that will come to pass. Nonsense! What happened is on 'air' and in the clouds, the gathering of all His church saints at the 'first resurrection' on His second coming, is an incident by itself. And what happened...
  3. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Will go with you, for salvation of an unbeliever, the Gospel message calling for repentance and water baptism for the remission of sins, and baptism of the Holy Ghost, is the first step. Then once saved begin discipled in All Scripture=Holy Bible, hence may be perfect, thoroughly furnished a...
  4. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Go back to my #110 Thank you
  5. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    You're 'backwards' and have not add to your faith among others, 'knowledge'. 'bro tan' is quoting scripture, ministering and witnessing about the young man after becoming saved, and is now a 'church saint'. Therefore becoming discipled in All Scripture=Holy Bible, followed by 'faith' and...
  6. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Fair enough! His 'first coming' is in the Gospel of the New Testament. His 'second coming', (1Thessalonians4:14-17), (Matthew24:30), Christ coming in the clouds, and the saints together will be caught up in the clouds as well. to meet the Lord in the air. (Therefore He did not step foot on...
  7. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Middle of the Great Tribulation He comes according to you, therefore the church saints did not live through the Great Tribulation? Revelation 7: 14. And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and...
  8. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    That's your version and ridicule as usual, hence now you're talking about Christ's coming. Well, this is the given mine of His comings by record in the New Testament. Christ's 'first coming' is to bring grace and truth, and to take away the sins of the world, crucified, died, buried, cum on...
  9. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    i did not, but the KJV Book of Revelation did. Revelation 20: 5. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection, on such the second death hath no power, but...
  10. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Your basics to the scripture(word of GOD), studying plainly the surface of it word to word for understanding, cannot determine the truth in context. It takes first, years of discipleship based on the scriptures alone, reading it again and again. And then part by part and time to time...
  11. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    i disagree! The scripture reads, 'the dead in Christ', the true body of Christ church saints until the reign of anti-Christ cum the false prophet and persecuted for their faith, and 'non other'. While the 'lukewarm' body of Christ church in general will be left behind, and they and their...
  12. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    When the scripture clearly read straightforwardly, the raptured church saints will be caught up together 'in the clouds', to meet the Lord 'in the air'. And your initial version 'babble' is, they'll be caught up in the '2nd Heaven' and 'atmosphere'. Therefore if mine is inspired man of GOD...
  13. Fred J

    WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

    This epistle is written to the Gentile Roman church addressing the to the Gentile Christian. And in verse 30, Paul reminds the Gentile Christians how in time past they have not believed in GOD. Yet now they have obtained mercy from GOD through the unbelief of the Jews. Hope that helps, thank you
  14. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Am glad you're getting it, Glory be to GOD because of our Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost who serve Him. Read on, at the 'first resurrection', for those who made it, 'second death' have no power over them, blessed and holy he that have part in the in the 'first resurrection'. Therefore...
  15. Fred J

    WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

    To add, the Gospel of Christ given to the 12, beginning from the day of Pentecost with Holy Ghost and fire. Equipped with the mother tongues of the Gentile nations, beginning to spread to all nations, commissioned and blessed by Christ Himself, And, many Gentiles and scattered Jews in their...
  16. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    From where that you speak of above, comes, and do we put the scripture aside? In those words no, but in other words and similar meaning according to wisdom given the church, yes! 'First resurrection' or in other words 'rapture'. (1Thessalonians4:14-17) (Prior to this only Christ qualify and...
  17. Fred J

    WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

    i agree, the true Jews who are zeal and claim to be the followers of Moses, did play a rebellious and hostile role against the Gospel, the Messiah, the Apostles and the church. Also until today, because worldwide to date there are a lot of Gentiles being saved by the Gospel, and the full number...
  18. Fred J

    WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

    You're diligently doing your part as according to the wisdom given thee discipled in the All Scripture=Holy Bible. And am doing my part in the way am given, whilst as according to our given talent and ability, as unworthy servants ministering and witnessing for the Word(John1:1) of GOD. The...
  19. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    My given point is, the church saints shall be caught up together with them 'in' the 'clouds', to meet the Lord in the air. But you were mentioning, 'atmosphere' and '2nd Heaven', but scripture do not quote such. You're saying that. But am referring to Revelation 20:3&4, that says the church...
  20. Fred J

    WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

    i disagree, you're adding things just to suite your version and sect believes. His calling to minister and witness for Jesus by definition above, is the same given to the 12 in commission as pertaining to the Gospel. If that's the case there should be a Gospel according to Paul to the...