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Sorry to burst your bubbles, for this is not the context, when the context is finishing at chapter 11.

To you little ones who take things literally and not understand about which things are an 'allegory'.

Ha, ha, let the true born again judge of your 'fallacy', have already given you two scripture, and you couldn't respond to that. And what you accuse of others doing, you do it yourself, who's the pharisee then? You! According to Jesus, the pharisees say one thing in morality and do another...

You just 'buried' your 'self', figuratively speaking, thank you.

Boring.....

That's all you've got to say and 'belittle' others, just because you can't 'quote' more how believers attain it? 1 John 2: 26. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27. But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man...

You on your own have single out Hagar and Sarah, and left out others pertaining to the subject in context, which things are an allegory.

i get it, continue in your discipleship, because there's doctrine of 'milk' for the 'lambs', and there's doctrine of 'meat' for the 'sheep'. Thank you

When you can't answer and don't have the answer, you tend to go back to your 'self' mode as above. You want us to agree with the answer you gave and not question more, you'd be at peace and friends? When we perceive those who're 'shortsighted', and need help, but they're merely proud to attain it.

The physical Mt Zion in Jerusalem on earth was once the Holy City of GOD, where the Temple was and HIS Holy presence was in the Most Holy Place in the Temple. It's long gone and non existence, for GOD's presence have moved on to the 'body of Christ', as now the spiritual Heavenly Mt Zion here...

It's not to how many Jerusalem given in allegory, but rather to the Holy sites here on earth spoken of as of Heavenly, which things are an allegory.

Therefore, you received everything from Heaven and nothing from the All Scripture=Holy Bible and so?

But you did agree to amigo's claim, that the spiritual Mt Zion is in Heaven. How about agreeing on the contrary, that the spiritual Mt Zion of Heaven is here on earth and in us the 'body of Christ/church, as apparently for the Kingdom of GOD is 'at hand'. And for every true born again who've...

Well 'David in NJ', we're waiting for your answer?

My friend, you who are not learned in the scripture, will be like those here, like a 'weed' blown by the wind here and there.

You go first, not by your words but by the scripture and quote how true believers attained it, 'as it is written' or 'for it is written' Thank you

Will make it short and simple for you kids who making a lot of noise over this simple matter. Galatians 4: 24. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants;

Don't be proud and be sure of your 'self' unwisely, for GOD have divided HIS gifts to HIS unworthy servants. So, for the record, GOD did not give you all the answer and let you have an upper hand over us. We also quoted scripture and explaining from it to the nearest possibility prophesied...

Evidence was provided to you as well, what did you do with it? You've ignored them likewise and continue with yours strongly, which 'fall short' to us here and there, as being 'shortsighted' yourself. Hypocrite! You do the very same thing that the ones you judge doing.

The '24 elders in Heaven' are the Biblical fathers of Israel in the Old Testament, like, 'Enoch, Elijah, Moses and etc. whom are not recorded. They symbolically 'do not' represent the whole resurrected church, but rather day and night 'in service' with the 'angels', to GOD and the Lamb who...