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  1. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Under your goofy ignorance, 'Sarah' is an illusion too as is Mt Sion? You and David can continue in your kindergarten stuff dilemma, there's an actual Mt. Zion in Heaven, but to us is 'hilarious'. Likewise, muslim jihadist also have the dilemma believing scripturally, there are everlasting...
  2. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    You're a 'false apostle', compared to the true Apostle Paul who said these things are an 'allegory'. Well it's kindergarten stuff to you, but to us is spiritual and of the Kingdom of GOD from above.
  3. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    You may have to be patience with me if my replies are late, thank you.
  4. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Would give all Glory, Honor and Praise to GOD because of our Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. Am just an unworthy servant just doing my duty, you may start the discussion, thank you
  5. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    'Spectator'?
  6. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Then start a topic open a thread, thank you Because this topic is deep, about the Rapture and Great Tribulation. You've to read my posts and get back to me on the post you have questions or so
  7. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Sorry, hello there, welcome, we can either Biblically agree or disagree.
  8. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Ha, ha, ha, 'Mt Zion is in Heaven' again?? Probably there are more than one mount there, because one would look awkward, go and do more research and get back to us. Will leave you 'two love birds' together and in research, no thank you.
  9. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Yes, when you take it literally in your carnal self and understanding, truly not born again, indeed for you Mont Zion is also in Heaven. But to us who spiritually discern, scripturally Heavenly Mount Zion and Jerusalem the Holy city of the free, of Sarah, or in other words of Hagar, is rather...
  10. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    No i didn't! Romans 11: 26. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27. For this is My covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Read on and understand the context, thank you.
  11. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    No it did not! It's not even talking about the Great Tribulation, nor the rapture where the 144,000 are in Heaven. Christ is already in Heaven and from Heaven with the holy angels the revelation is being ministered and witnessed. Mount Zion is on earth, symbolically it represent the spiritual...
  12. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Matthew chapter 24 Verse 14, minister and witness to us that the Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in the world, unto all nations, and then the end shall come. When then GOD will send a strong delusion upon all the 'unbelievers' in the world, for instead of believing in the truth and...
  13. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Thank you very much for that and i appreciate your reply, since i perceive your 'zeal' for the scripture and truth, and stand to no nonsense. But if i may whether you agree or disagree, there's something about these rebellious Jews i want to clarify with you, thank you. According to Romans...
  14. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    This we agree is one with the scripture, where you've pointed out earlier according to Revelation chapter 14. They are not 'symbolic' the claim of some, but exact as it is the will of GOD by the Gospel, the remnant of Jews saved by grace should be 144,000 of them. While the rest of the Jews...
  15. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    FYI This is my given thread that i've posted from the beginning in regards Revelation 20:5&6. Christ is the firstfruit of resurrection from the dead to life and ascended to Heaven, and seated on the right hand of the Majesty on High. After that there's no resurrection of the dead to life and...
  16. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Who made you judge over the Lord's unworthy servant? You who judge, do the very same things the ones you accuse of. You do the very same thing, even the few of you alike, add to GOD's word and etc. That's why the few of you are in our 'ignore' list, seems like we've nothing in common.
  17. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    GIBBERISH! To top it up, the maniifestation of the fleshly 'arrongance' and 'bully'! 'Time out'!
  18. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Gibberish! i replied to David and not you.
  19. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    But according to Jesus Christ in the New Testament, from 7 years of Great Tribulation is reduced to 3 1/2 years. How can i discuss with wannabe teachers, you had your time and is out. Where is the scripture quote? Scripture quote? Apparently what youve replied from the beginning itself...
  20. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    'Little kid in Christ' and 'wannabe teacher who'll be greatly judged', they are not 'symbolic', nor to do with Gentile Christians. They are the 'remnant of Israel saved under the election of grace', of Paul in Romans. And they are the 'firstfruits' unto salvation and in Christ, the 144,000...