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  1. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    1. Yes, you said to obey your Church, and you basically represent your Church, so you're saying to submit to your word, because it is the word of your Church. 2. I agree--but you guys really are cut throat (perhaps not as much after Vatican II), whereas we've been granting that there are actual...
  2. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    In the Epistle to the Romans, for instance, Paul didn't tell the Roman Jewish believers "OBEY WHAT I TELL YOU!", he reasoned with them--he preempted their Jewish, Scripture-based objections to his Gospel, and answered those arguments using Scripture and reason. Jesus did the same--He engaged...
  3. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Peter unknowingly taught and lived contrary to the ultimate reality / truth of the Gospel--as Paul says, "My conscience is clear, but I am not thereby acquitted, for it is the Lord [the Word of God] Who judges me." So, also, Peter's conscience was clear, and we see this dynamic permitted in...
  4. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    "Deepest sympathies"? As you say, "keep it up--you're letting everyone know what you're made of"! LOL! You're so obviously in the wrong, and you're uninterested in that fact--you care only about pretending you are right! Your behavior does not differ from the behavior of the Catholics you...
  5. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    If even Peter taught error (ie, he taught that only Jews could be saved, and that they all had to serve God by means of the Law--up until the corrective vision in Acts 10), who are you to think you have to be 100% correct about everything you assert just because you have the Holy Spirit? Humble...
  6. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Funny, no one on your side of the debate has bothered to "debunk" the claims; they just emptily object, like they do everything else, completely impotent to prove anything about anything.
  7. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Avail yourself of the information in the video presentation before responding to it (Proverbs 18:13).
  8. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    What is the "error"? That Peter didn't know Gentiles could be saved? If he knew Gentiles could be saved, why were they all astonished when Cornelius received the Spirit? Why was it the first time the Jewish believers who confronted Peter when he got back to Jerusalem (after having gone to...
  9. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    You didn't read carefully : I said Peter didn't know Gentiles could be saved IN ACTS 10, WHEN HE WENT TO CORNELIUS. It is obvious that he knew Gentiles could be saved by Acts 15--I never would argue to the contrary, since he received that revelation in Acts 10, and the number 10 precedes 15 ...
  10. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    All I said was it is clear to me that Christ meant Peter was the rock He would build His Church on, and I gave my reasons for believing that--and I still believe it, because your empty objections are irrelevant and laughable!
  11. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Ok we disagree.
  12. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    I'm not arguing about who got there first, I'm saying John intentionally put himself BEHIND Peter on that occasion AND on the occasion at the end of the Gospel, and that is in addition to the fact that it was Peter who walked on the water with Jesus; when Peter said, "I'm going fishing", after...
  13. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    This I actually arrived at on my own. Actually, it was, apparently, a "wild west" back then, and there was no absolute "Church teaching", because, apparently, the Jewish believers had some sort of expectation of Peter, and Peter was afraid of them, so he was trying to satisfy their...
  14. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    I don't have to deny the obvious. John got to the tomb first, but let Peter go in first, and, at the end of the Gospel, John put himself BEHIND Peter and Jesus. Peter was called the rock, and on the rock, He built His church : Peter preached at Pentecost, and Peter first went to the Gentiles...
  15. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    I thought I treated what you'd said as "not playing with a full deck of cards".
  16. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    I agree Peter is the Rock the Church is built on, and how the Apostles decide--an example of this is when Paul, who says he is present with them in spirit when they gather together, has passed judgment on the brother, and has delivered him over to satan for the destruction of his flesh. Oops...
  17. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    I don't like everything about Calvinism--and I know you're RC--but I really like how they hammer this point home : a SINGLE sin saw Adam die and be kicked out of the Garden, so that's how high the standard is, therefore, there is no way other than honoring Christ's sacrifice (as all mankind...
  18. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Bullseye.
  19. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    1. This is called "slander" : I don't conceive of "being led by the Spirit into all truth" as you do, so I have no problem at all believing and affirming that the Spirit is guiding many who disagree with me (including in the EO and RC churches, Calvinists and Arminians, Cessationists and...
  20. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Yeah, I don't need anyone to tell me 1+1=2, and there're many doctrines that are perceptible, and then there are hard ones for which i have looked to others for conclusions others have come to (including the EO and RC churches), and if I don't find them completely satisfactory, I discuss on the...