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  1. GracePeace

    The Roman Catholic Church Infallibility Thread

    1. The Law contained concessions. 2. God's commands can change : incest used to be a holy command ("Be fruitful and multiply" meant "commit incest"), however, now, God calls it an abomination. I've already debunked your argument, and, now, it is your job to respond to my response.
  2. GracePeace

    Mary as New Eve

    Adam was a type of Christ (Ro 5). Adam's bride, Eve, was his own body; Christ's bride, the Church, is "the body of Christ". Ergo, the only New Eve that could exist would be the Church. It's no coincidence Paul directly compares the Church to Eve (2 Co 11:3).
  3. GracePeace

    The Roman Catholic Church Infallibility Thread

    More than not "liking" them, He nullifies them, because they're made for hard-hearted people, but hard-heartedness has to do with an unbelieving heart falling away from the living God (Heb 3), so there's no place for them in the New Covenant--and oath-taking was one of those concessions. If it...
  4. GracePeace

    Mary as New Eve

    To proceed from "all Scripture is profitable" to "Mary is a type" is uncalled for--I think it is "making hay". To say something is a "type" is a very serious matter. For Mary to be an example is one thing, but to proceed to say she is a "type" is too much for me. I let the Apostles make those...
  5. GracePeace

    Mary as New Eve

    LOL Jesus also calls the Samaritan woman "woman" (Jn 4)--is she ANOTHER "New Eve" just because of that? How many "New Eve"s do you need?
  6. GracePeace

    Mary as New Eve

    Yeah, I've already presented my arguments for why it is the Church who would be the New Eve--you're free to interact with my arguments.
  7. GracePeace

    Mary as New Eve

    Literally every person in the Bible had to receive God's Word and obey it. Mary is not anomalous in that regard. I really don't get the drive to make hay about her. It is idolatry.
  8. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Yup, there were myriad things the Apostles didn't understand before receiving the Spirit--they didn't even know Gentiles could be saved, even though Christ said "Go preach to the nations", bc the Jews who went with Peter were all astonished that the Gentiles received the gift of the Spirit, but...
  9. GracePeace

    The Roman Catholic Church Infallibility Thread

    I understand it is hard to let go of traditions, but the tradition of taking vows before marriage is a tradition of men that flies in the face of God's Word.
  10. GracePeace

    Mary as New Eve

    Very little is written about Mary, so I don't know how she could be an example to me. Oh, she received the Word? So I am to receive the Word? Was that something I needed to learn from Mary? I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous.
  11. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    I really am confused at how people--eg, @Doug, the author of this thread--can fall into such obvious errors. Some errors are subtle, and more understandable, but you have to go OUT OF YOUR WAY to believe some of this nonsense.
  12. GracePeace

    Mary as New Eve

    To me, Mary is not a type or figure of anything. I do not look to Mary at all. She was blessed, sure, but we are to look to Christ. I don't expect the Catholics to be honest about this, because they have their tradition, I am just sharing it.
  13. GracePeace

    Mary as New Eve

    LOL! Clutch your pearls all you want. You don't have a single substantive thing to say. Your being offended doesn't prove your point. It is EVIDENT that you haven't read the Bible--either that or that you are an outright rebel, take your pick (it's better to be ignorant)--because you REJECT its...
  14. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    The idea falls apart when we realize Paul corrected Peter's veering from the truth of the Gospel--only one Gospel, and Peter had to submit to it. He wasn't a free agent roaming around preaching his own thing.
  15. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    1. The text says Israel will dwell alone and not be numbered with the Gentiles. 2. Therefore, they found fault with both his going to the Gentiles' home, and with eating with them. 3. Peter was told to eat unclean food, and, then, he ate with Gentiles. This is because if the food laws are not...
  16. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    No, the occasion for having written Romans was that the Jews had been expelled from Rome (so the Christian Jews also had to leave), and, now, they were being permitted to return, but they were finding that the Church had been filled with Gentiles, and they had to have and understanding for how...
  17. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Paul says "when we WERE in the flesh" (Ro 7:5). Why does he say, of himself and his audience, "WERE in the flesh" if what he meant was "now we're not in bodies anymore"? Why does he say, of believers, "you are not in the flesh but in the spirit" (Ro 8:9)?
  18. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Yeah, God is doing something today, and that thing is that God is saving a small portion (in those days, it was 7000) of Israel. Paul is part of that small portion.
  19. GracePeace

    The Roman Catholic Church Infallibility Thread

    Remember, there is nothing wrong with God swearing, because God is actually God--it is wrong when we do it BECAUSE we are not God ("you can not make one hair white or black"). When we say that we swear, we are assuming Godhood, making ourselves out to be something much more than we really are...
  20. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    @Doug Another user observed... Ephesians 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you also were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. There is only one faith, not two--which explains...