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  1. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    One day is like a thousand years to God, the bible says, within a thousand years they did die. 2 Peter 3:8 I don't understand sometimes the way Jesus talks and why the Bible expresses things a certain way, but still the majority of scripture provide certain details, and I believe these details...
  2. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Jesus says: at John 5:28-29 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. "And you, Daniel, go rest to the...
  3. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Why would God explain to them anything if they were going to live on anyway? I am happy today I'm going home from the hospital.
  4. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Yes, I believe so, they started with the opportunity to live forever isn't that why God told them you will surely die. They lost their everlasting life, so they died eventually. If they would have kept on living that means they still have their everlasting life and the serpent was telling the...
  5. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    When the Bible says you will surely die, doesn't that sound final? And when Jesus says he will judge and raise them up on the last day, isn't Jesus words clear here too?
  6. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    I think it's nice on this forum that we can talk about what we believe in and the reasons why we believe it, but the arguing back and forth I think is counter productive. Wouldn't you rather people understand what you believe and your reasons why you believe it, rather than pages of debates?
  7. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    You are explaining this.... not the scriptures. If the Bible wanted to add this detail, don't you think it would have? Shouldn't the Bible be allowed to explain things the way it wants to? Why does the Bible even have these words? "you shall surely die" "dust you shall return" "The dead no...
  8. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Wouldn't the disciples have to die first before they we're resurrected to the heavens? Same thing, wouldn't the disciples have to die first before they we're resurrected to the heavens? I would think Jesus was going to prepare a place for them in the near future before any one of the disciples...
  9. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    2 PETER 3:8 KJ21 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing: that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Why does the Bible even have these words? "you shall surely die" "dust you shall return" "The dead no nothing" Ecc. 9:5 "Those who sleep in the...
  10. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Sorry but I am finished debating endlessly.
  11. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    John 3:16 is not a parable, but part of a private conversation Jesus had with a Pharisee named Nicodemus. It was spoken to a believing individual religious leader, not to the large crowd that later called for Jesus' crucifixion. John 3:16 is not a parable, it was not spoken to the crowds that...
  12. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Yes, Jesus said in Matthew 13:34-35 and Mark 4:33-34 that he spoke to the crowds in parables and without a parable he did not speak to them, but he explained all things privately to his disciples. This was a deliberate teaching method to reveal spiritual truth to those receptive to it, while...
  13. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Sometimes Jesus explains his parables Sometimes he does not, he did not explain the parable about the Rich man and Lazarus. You don't really know when Jesus is using a spiritual metaphor.
  14. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Jesus said you must eat my flesh and drink my blood and I will resurrect you on the last day. How do you know when Jesus is talking with a literal word, a figurative word, or a symbolic word? The answer is: You don't. What can we do? We can take the majority of the scriptures in agreement. Do...
  15. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    I am done commenting! Thanks. Please stop.
  16. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    I read the Bible, Jesus says my brother my mother my sister is the one that reads the word of God and puts it in practice.
  17. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    John 11:14 Jesus says Lazarus has died.
  18. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Jesus died for everyone's sins, he is the one that paid the price. Not us! Why do we take in knowledge and observe Jesus commands? to put it simply, the Bible asks us to. Google it please.
  19. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    If I use only the words in the scriptures to explain my fundamental beliefs, how can I go wrong?