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  1. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Yes that is true but a few words later she just says Lazarus has died.
  2. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    I have always felt that way.. The Holy Scriptures in the Bible is the truth that leads to everlasting life, not the words from any individual anywhere in the history of time.
  3. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    I feel the opposite way, If we explain something in our own words we are doing what Jesus warned us not to do, listen to the words of the traditions of men and the Apostle Paul warned us not to listen to another gospel only the one from Christ. The Apostle Paul warned us not to listen to...
  4. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Good question, It does not mention the point in time. When Jesus resurrected Lazarus did he hear Jesus voice after he was resurrected? All I know is the scriptures said that "the dead no nothing" You don't want to pit one scripture against another do you, I try to have the words in one scripture...
  5. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    I have already listed all the scriptures I use to support my belief. They are all listed here on post #168 https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/what-is-the-state-of-the-dead-in-the-afterlife.70010/page-9#post-2145498 Disregard any of the words I have on the post, please only regard the...
  6. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Read each scripture please: post #168 https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/what-is-the-state-of-the-dead-in-the-afterlife.70010/page-9#post-2145498
  7. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Because the scripture explains that mankind and animals all have the one [ spirit, breath or wind ]. The Bible does not explain the spirit/breath/wind is a spiritual body or a alive person in any form. But the Bible does explain "You surely will die" "Dust you will return" and Jesus says: John...
  8. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    I understand there is a physical death, and if your name is in the book of life that person will be resurrected, and if your name is not in the book of life you will be resurrected to condemnation.
  9. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    The scripture does not explain this you are: (under the sun, in the physical realm)
  10. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    My point is Ecclesiastes 12:7 can be taken different ways, it all depends which word you select to use: wind, breath or spirit or all three. Which word would you select if you wanted to agree with the majority of scriptures in the Bible, that are clearly explained? I don't base my beliefs on...
  11. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Starting with Genesis these words are not explained, but there is words explained in the book of Genesis, they just don't agree with these words:
  12. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Ecclesiastes 9:10 New International Version Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom. Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm...
  13. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Ecclesiastes 12:7 that says the spirit returns to the God that gave it, that word spirit by definition means wind/breath/spirit one detail in that scripture is the wind, breath, spirit goes back to the God who gave it, the scripture does not explain that it is a spiritual body or that we keep on...
  14. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Why does the Bible explain "you shall surely die" Genesis 2:17, "For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return.” Gen. 3:19 in the book of Genesis, why does the book of Genesis explain these details in the first place? Why does Genesis explain nothing about we...
  15. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    These scriptures agree with each-other. Some scriptures can be taken in two or three different ways, I have picked a perspective that agrees with the many other scriptures in the Bible. 1.In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken...
  16. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    I am going to do some praying, I will get back with you soon once I think of something beneficial to present. I think it's very hard when both sides have scriptures that seem to support both their beliefs.
  17. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    What if we read Justin's words and understand them just as He wrote them? Justin, who lived from 106-165 CE A generation just after the Apostles: For if you have fallen in with some who are called Christians, but who do not admit this [truth], and venture to blaspheme the God of Abraham, and...
  18. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Yes, the "fire" is eternal, but what is placed in the fire is destroyed, consumed, die, etc. Many place an eternal life onto the condemned, which is not biblical. Eternal life or eternal death, the wages of sin is death not life. They don't think of the horrible character traits they place upon...
  19. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    1 Peter 3:18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. 19 After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long...
  20. walter

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    The way you explain it sounds reasonable to me, but myself [ I like to let the Bible do most of the talking and explaining ] of any details that are beneficial. 2 Timothy 3:16-17, John 17:17, Acts 17:11, Romans 15:4 Matthew 12:40 New International Version For as Jonah was three days and three...