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Yet the lamentation is directed to the king of Tyrus, a human! Clearly if one tries to interpret literary poetic prose without understanding metaphor and imagery, they will not properly discern the lamentation.

What's the difference? Can there be one without the other?

Spirits don't themselves need legs to walk up and down. This is metaphoric language showing us that in this world this spirit of evil and darkness is always found to be among the children of God. This is why we are repeatedly warned to be watchful, and not to be deceived while living in this...

NO! Human beings were created with a body + spirit (breath of life) and became living souls. In 1 Th 5:23 Paul prays the whole man, consisting of body + spirit as living soul would be preserved blameless unto the coming of the Lord. Because the Word of God is like a two-edged sword, piercing...

All of mankind are indwelt by spirit of this world, or Spirit of Christ! There are only two types of people upon the earth, those under the power that holds this world in bondage to sin and death, and those under the power of Christ's Spirit that gives eternal life to whosoever has been born...

Satan is spirit, there is no indication in the text to prove Satan appeared and spoke to Christ in physical form during the forty days of temptations. Jesus being filled with the Holy Ghost both heard and spoke to the spirit called Satan through the Spirit that filled Him. (see Lu 4:1-13) In...

It's true that king Tyrus was under the influence of evil, however the lamentation is directed to the king, not a fallen angel called Satan. No, read it more carefully. The lamentation is directed to the king of Tyrus, calling him the anointed cherub and perfect in his ways etc. it is not...

Scripture does NOT tell us that Satan was created either as an angel of God, or the spirit of all evil. Satan acts through man's natural spirit. If man had never fallen into sin and become destined to die, where would Satan be found? He only exists through the humans he inhabits since the...

That's only because he views the spirit in mankind as being the spirit/Spirit in them. It's not denying the existence of spirit beings but recognizing these spirits only exist through the humans they inhabit. When our spirit is inhabited by the spirit of evil, we, through natural spirit are...

The lamentation is directed to the King of Tyrus, a human, it is he who is once was called the "anointed cherub"! If you don't know what cherubim are, do you think it wise to guess? I don't read the cherub being called 'he' in the lamentation to king Tyrus. According to the Hebrew dictionary...

All of humanity lived under fear through the curse of death until they have been born again. None could be born again until Christ came and made atonement for sin and defeated death. The Covenant promises of God could only remain a promise and not fact before Christ literally came.

When I read again reply #21 from TS he writes "there can be no communion of the spirit of Satan and the Spirit of God in the same Temple" also "But if you mean do I believe the spirit of devils possesses people and thus they do terrible and wicked things, then YES. Absolutely!" If there is...

The following is the reason this post became so hostile. WPM replied: This is more in line with modern liberal Atheistic Psychology thinking today or established Christadelphianism than biblical Christianity. The modern psychological model The modern psychological model views the...

To set the record straight, I bowed out of this discussion not because I did not have an answer from Scripture for what I believe regarding Satan, but because this post became so hostile toward fellow Christians, and I too engaged in a manner that did not bring glory and honor to God.

Conclusions Taking these two passages in their literary and historical contexts, it is a very questionable interpretation to claim they are describing the fall of Satan. This teaching is very popular, but was rejected by the Reformers and by most evangelical scholars in modern commentaries. The...

What the commentaries and Bible handbooks say I have yet to find a commentary which, by looking at the whole book and the relevant passages in context, teaches with any degree of certainty that either Isaiah 14 or Ezekiel 28 describe the fall of Satan. However, there are plenty of topical books...

Ezekiel 28:11-19 Ezekiel chapters 25 to 32 are also prophecies against pagan nations. Chapters 26 to 28 are specifically against Tyre, a major city, important port and wealthy commercial centre at that time, under its ruler Ethbaal III (c.590 - c.573). Ezekiel described Tyre’s trading with other...

Is Lucifer a name for Satan? The name 'Lucifer' only appears in Isaiah 14:12. The Hebrew word is 'helel', meaning 'the shining one'. In the Septuagint (LXX), the translation of the OT into Greek, it was translated 'heosphoros', meaning 'the light-bearer'. The first time it was translated as...

I don't deny the existence of the spirit being, Satan! What I've argued against is the belief that Satan is a fallen angel! Tertullian (160 - 220) was the first of the church fathers who taught that Satan was a fallen angel, by quoting Ezekiel 28 (Against Marcion 2:10). The Fall of Satan -...

What difference does it make? Physical death is ordained for every human! When man physically dies in unbelief, they have no hope of living again, which is why they fear death. But the man who physically dies in faith has no more fear of death, because they know physical death is not the end...