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    Why the great chain?

    Are you reading and assuming that when Satan is bound this world will be a world of peace and harmony? If yes, where in Scripture do you find that to be true?
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    Why the great chain?

    As long as Satan possessed power to take the Word away from those who hear and don't understand, how can Gentiles (nations) be saved? The gospel of the Kingdom of God was sent out by Christ to be not only proclaimed but also taught so that new disciples would be made from all nations. Before the...
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    Why the great chain?

    This is true, but what Scripture does say is that Satan deceived nations (Gentiles) before being bound. That meant that only few from among the nations (Gentiles) prior to his binding were being saved. Since the cross and resurrection that truth changed decisively. Because now, since the...
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    Why the great chain?

    Satan is released when the seventh trumpet sounds that time shall be no longer. That shall be AFTER the Kingdom of God in heaven is complete and there are no others to be eternally saved. That's why John writes that Satan shall be loosed only when the thousand years have expired. Since the...
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    Why the great chain?

    The gospel of the Kingdom of God is the message about the life, death and resurrection of the promised Messiah, Christ Jesus our Lord. If Satan has not been bound through the advent of Christ's cross and resurrection, there would be NO gospel of the Kingdom of God to proclaim unto all people...
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    Why the great chain?

    Conclusions Taking these two passages in their literary and historical contexts, it is a very questionable interpretation to claim they are describing the fall of Satan. This teaching is very popular, but was rejected by the Reformers and by most evangelical scholars in modern commentaries. The...
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    Why the great chain?

    What the commentaries and Bible handbooks say I have yet to find a commentary which, by looking at the whole book and the relevant passages in context, teaches with any degree of certainty that either Isaiah 14 or Ezekiel 28 describe the fall of Satan. However, there are plenty of topical books...
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    Why the great chain?

    Ezekiel 28:11-19 Ezekiel chapters 25 to 32 are also prophecies against pagan nations. Chapters 26 to 28 are specifically against Tyre, a major city, important port and wealthy commercial centre at that time, under its ruler Ethbaal III (c.590 - c.573). Ezekiel described Tyre’s trading with other...
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    Why the great chain?

    Is Lucifer a name for Satan? The name 'Lucifer' only appears in Isaiah 14:12. The Hebrew word is 'helel', meaning 'the shining one'. In the Septuagint (LXX), the translation of the OT into Greek, it was translated 'heosphoros', meaning 'the light-bearer'. The first time it was translated as...
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    Why the great chain?

    Tertullian (160 - 220) was the first of the church fathers who taught that Satan was a fallen angel, by quoting Ezekiel 28 (Against Marcion 2:10). The Fall of Satan - Does the Bible teach it? Julian Spriggs M.A. The purpose of this article is to study the two passages in the Old Testament that...
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    Why the great chain?

    Because there is no such thing as one who has been ETERNALLY saved to fall away!
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    Why the great chain?

    David, what happened to the spirit of A&E when they sinned against God's command and listened to the words of the serpent? They had been given life everlasting through the breath (Spirit) of God when they were created, with the warning that they would die when they disobeyed God. They could...
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    Why the great chain?

    What you fail to explain is how Gentiles from the nations of the world have been and are being saved if Satan who deceives all of them has not yet been bound by the cross and resurrection of Christ? The text tells us that Satan had to be bound "that he should deceive the nations no more"...
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    Why the great chain?

    Satan didn't have to be bound for people to be saved. However, it has always been necessary for people to know of the Savior and believe God for them to be saved. Before there was a nation called Israel this knowledge came to those who were of faith through revelation from God alone. Even the...
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    Why the great chain?

    Satan didn't have to be bound for people to be saved. However, it has always been necessary for people to know of the Savior and believe God for them to be saved. Before there was a nation called Israel this knowledge came to those who were of faith through revelation from God alone. Even the...
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    Why the great chain?

    Are you really arguing that Gentiles (nations) are not being saved NOW as the gospel of the Kingdom of God is being preached unto all the nations of the world? Why would Christ instruct His disciples to go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit...
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    Why the great chain?

    I am a Gentile from among the nations, among those who were deceived before learning of the advent of Christ's cross and resurrection and I possess eternal life NOW through Him from the moment I was born again. How can it be that I am no longer deceived by Satan and eternally saved if Christ...
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    Why the great chain?

    Before there was a nation called Israel, God chose some Gentiles to be saved, from whom the promised birth of the Saviour would physically come. There had to be some Gentiles saved before Israel became a nation to provide the lineage from whom Christ would come. Beginning with Abraham, Isaac...
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    Why the great chain?

    NOW, since the advent of Christ's cross and resurrection, Satan only has power to hold in bondage to fear of death to all who remain in unbelief! Satan no longer has power over fear of death to all (Jew & Gentile) who have been born again through the gospel proclaimed in the power of the Holy...
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    Why the great chain?

    Exactly! That power was broken through the cross and resurrection of Christ that spiritually binds the power of Satan to hold Gentile nations in fear of death through sin. If that power is not already broken through the perfect life, atoning blood, and resurrected life of Christ, then the...