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  1. TrevorHL

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Greetings again HealthyShape, That's fine. It is my usual method. It becomes necessary sometimes when there are numerous participants in a thread. The Bible is the most readily accessible blessing so that we can access ALLof the Word of God as recorded in the OT and NT. We are blessed in this...
  2. TrevorHL

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Greetings again HealthyShape, My assessment of a true Christian is different to your assessment as basically I question your definition of "the basic doctrines of Christianity", I question present possession of "the Holy Spirit" and what range of ideas do you suggest to replace "reading the...
  3. TrevorHL

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Greetings again HealthyShape, Does your definition of a Protestant and/or a Christian include an individual who possibly attends a Church once a week or less often, or if CofE attends twice a year at Easter and Xmas only, and almost indifferently listens to a paid clergyman and rarely reads the...
  4. TrevorHL

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Greetings again GodsGrace and Greetings HealthyShape, I suggest that would be a complete failure starting with the variety of beliefs even in the main Protestant Churches. Your main suggested qualification, the subject of the Trinity, is far from clear Apostolic teaching but was only...
  5. TrevorHL

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Greetings again GodsGrace, That's fine. I was not trying to debate the subject as we have already had sufficient discussion on our differences. I could not resist responding to your standard statement and question. I suggest that this thread has run its repetitive course even though your latest...
  6. TrevorHL

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Greetings again GodsGrace, Yes, as per true Christianity:. Hebrews 2:6–9 (KJV): 6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? 7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory...
  7. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, I consider that your objection is not valid with respect to what I stated concerning the Hebrew word "Elohim" being applied to Angels, human Judges and the Lord Jesus Christ. Even the KJV reveals that fact when you consider the various passages. In part of the answer Jesus...
  8. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, Perhaps you should look at the range of usage of the Hebrew word "Elohim" as it is also applied to Angels, human Judges and our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Anyway, this is off topic and I am not interested in getting too deeply involved in another Trinitarian vs...
  9. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, John 1:1 states "the Word was God". It does not say Jesus is God. Kind regards Trevor
  10. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, You seem to be ignoring the normal meaning of words. God the Father is the King of all the earth and universe. He is Lord of heaven and earth. Matthew 11:25 (KJV): At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid...
  11. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, You are using a faulty syllogism. I have already given the example of Yahweh is Shepherd, Jesus is Shepherd, but you cannot claim that from this Jesus is the Yahweh of Psalm 23. Are you suggesting that God the Father is not King of Kings? There are and have been many...
  12. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, I am at a loss as to what you are trying to prove by your confused circuitous reasoning. Kind regards Trevor
  13. TrevorHL

    What is the meaning of I AM WHO I AM in Exodus 3:14?

    Greetings Lambano, I suggest "I will be what/who I will be" is the correct translation, and speaks of God's future activity in delivering Israel out of Egypt Exodus 3:12, Exodus 6:1-8, not simply his existence which was well known to the Patriarchs as The Most High God (Power) Genesis 14 and...
  14. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, You can apply that type of deduction to ALL the attributes of Jesus. Yahweh is David's Shepherd Psalm 23. Jesus is the Good Shepherd John 10. A proper syllogism takes into consideration all the factors relating to the various items. Psalm 23 can be the thoughts and words...
  15. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, You are using a faulty deduction. Kind regards Trevor
  16. TrevorHL

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Greetings again Justified, Then you have fully swallowed the Pharisees subterfuge. The disciples and the crowd did not and this event and all of John 7 and 8 are a build up to the Pharisees' frustration which led to their ultimate decision to arrest Jesus privately and subject him to the false...
  17. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, I suggest that this must apply only to the One God, Yahweh, God the Father. He alone "hath" immortality as an essential part of His Being. He has granted Jesus immortality. Jesus, when he returns will manifest God His Father. Jesus has been seen and can be seen. Kind...
  18. TrevorHL

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Greetings again Justified, It makes perfect sense. Jesus is maintaining what the stated in John 8:24,28 that he is the Christ. It has everything to do with why Trinitarians incorrectly insist on the translation "I AM" in John 8:58. The "I" is Yahweh, "I will be". The process was the child...
  19. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, I do not have spare time this morning Australian time to answer in detail. Only God the Father is the one who lives in unapproachable light, and no man has seen or can see him.. Yes, he was crucified and died. Kind regards Trevor
  20. TrevorHL

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Greetings Justified, The same words are translated "I am he" in John 8:24,28 and I claim that Jesus is maintaining his position despite the deliberate muddying of the waters by the Pharisees. They understood what he was claiming concerning Abraham. Also the main basis of the claim by...