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  1. TrevorHL

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Greetings again Davy, Oh, yes it is. You have now given fairly well the full range of the supposed Trinitarian verses and a brief synopsis of the wrong interpretation of these verses. I stated that I would be interested in discussing John 8:58, the subject of this thread, and specifically what...
  2. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, You seem to be mixed up. The concept of immortal souls is that they consider that each individual already has an immortal soul that lives on in heaven, perhaps your supposed paradise but yours is in the centre of the earth. (what a terrible concept), or hell when the body...
  3. TrevorHL

    What is the meaning of I AM WHO I AM in Exodus 3:14?

    Greetings again Aunty Jane, There is too much literal detail in Isaiah 2:1-4 and this clearly teaches that Isaiah is depicting events that will happen when Jesus returns to the earth. Micah 4:1-8 is almost a quotation of Isaiah 2:1-4, but Micah also reveals the restoration and conversion of...
  4. TrevorHL

    What is the meaning of I AM WHO I AM in Exodus 3:14?

    Greetings again Aunty Jane, I do not believe any of the faithful will go to heaven. As this subject is off topic, I will add a few references that form the basis of my beliefs, and I suggest each of the following are contrary to what you are stating and contrary to JW teaching. The following...
  5. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, I believe that Jesus in the form of Jesus' mortal body was raised from the dead, and he was then given immortality. He possesses a substantial physical immortal body. I do not believe that we already possess immortality in the form of an immortal soul that goes to heaven...
  6. TrevorHL

    What is the meaning of I AM WHO I AM in Exodus 3:14?

    Greetings again Aunty Jane, I do not accept the JW view of the subdivision, concerning 1914 and heaven going. ALL the faithful before and after the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus will be with Jesus upon the earth when he reigns over Natural Israel and the mortal nations. The very least...
  7. TrevorHL

    What is the meaning of I AM WHO I AM in Exodus 3:14?

    Greetings again Aunty Jane, I suggest that what is stated about John the Baptist does not really have much direct relevance to what is taught in Matthew 11:25-30. Also the JW misapplication of what is stated about John the Baptist is especially not relevant and is off topic, nevertheless a...
  8. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, I consider that most of that is figurative. Yes, Jesus was raised from the dead and given immortality. He has thus opened the way for all of mankind to receive immortality, and thus brought immortality to light. Jesus will raise the faithful dead and give them...
  9. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, Genesis 3:17-19 (KJV): 17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days...
  10. TrevorHL

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Greetings again Davy, I have had many discussions on the One God, Yahweh, God the Father and am not really interested in jumping to every supposed verse that are used by Trinitarians. I would be interested in any response to my understanding of John 8:58. Relevant to this thread is my strong...
  11. TrevorHL

    What is the meaning of I AM WHO I AM in Exodus 3:14?

    Greetings again Aunty Jane, I agree with most of what you have stated in your Post, but your JW theology is coming through in this last statement. Why did you add this verse and what is the relevance of this verse to the subject of this thread? The JWs have the unique view that ALL the...
  12. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, I believe it is a parable based upon the erroneous view of the Pharisees. Jesus uses this as a parody of their covetousness. As far as detail, Lazarus and the resurrection are mentioned, and it was a relatively short time when Jesus would resurrect Lazarus. There is no...
  13. TrevorHL

    What is the meaning of I AM WHO I AM in Exodus 3:14?

    Greetings again Walter, I suggest that you would benefit by attempting to distinguish between the two usages of "LORD" and "Lord" in the KJV, one English word, but the two different Hebrew words are highlighted and distinguished by the KJV translators with full capitals for Yahweh. One of the...
  14. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, Yes, we are sustained by both breath and God's Spirit, and when we expire and also give up the Spirit we return to dust. There is no evidence that this "spirit" is an equivalent to the supposed immortal souls that perpetuate the existence of the individual. Kind regards...
  15. TrevorHL

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Greetings again Davy, I consider that Trinitarians are also blind in their misunderstanding of what Jesus is saying and are also ready to mock the true teaching of Jesus. The difference here is that the Pharisees knew that they were deliberately giving a false interpretation to what Jesus...
  16. TrevorHL

    What is the meaning of I AM WHO I AM in Exodus 3:14?

    Greetings again Walter, I appreciate the clarification despite your earlier endorsements of my posts, posts #2,6 and your repetition of Exodus 15:1-3 in your post #44 in response to my post #43 which I quoted to support my claim that Exodus 3:14 should be translated as "I will be" or I "wilbe"...
  17. TrevorHL

    What is the meaning of I AM WHO I AM in Exodus 3:14?

    Greetings again Walter, Yes, those are the verses I quoted. I am glad you agree. Yes, this also confirms that Exodus 3:14 should be translated "I will be". Kind regards Trevor
  18. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, 2 Timothy 4:1,5-6 teach that Jesus will judge the living and the resurrected dead when he returns to establish his Kingdom upon the earth, Kind regards Trevor
  19. TrevorHL

    WHAT IS PARADISE?

    Greetings again Doug, Yes, Paul's next conscious moment will be when he will be with Christ when Jesus returns to resurrect him. 2 Timothy 4:1,5-6 (KJV): 1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom...
  20. TrevorHL

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Greetings Davy, Jesus was alluding to the events and outcome of Genesis 22, where Abraham rejoiced at the future day, and this helps to understand the correct meaning of John 8:58, that Jesus is claiming to be the Christ, the true seed of Abraham. Abraham foresaw the day when Jesus would be...