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    WHAT DOES IT MEAN WIVES ARE TO BE OBEDIENT TO THEIR HUSBANDS?

    God understands the difficulties of women (and men) in an abusive home environment. We have the example of how Abigail dealt with her husband, and of God's reward to her for disobeying Nabal's rejection of David's request for food for his men in the field. God Himself slew Nabal, and Abigail's...
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    WHAT DOES IT MEAN WIVES ARE TO BE OBEDIENT TO THEIR HUSBANDS?

    I get so weary of many believers presuming that God's words to Eve in Genesis 1 were a law He had approved and was instituting for them to follow, with men ruling over their wives by His design for marriage. God was only warning Eve of the sad results of what sin would cause for her gender from...
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    WHAT DOES IT MEAN WIVES ARE TO BE OBEDIENT TO THEIR HUSBANDS?

    Wrong. In its perfection in the Garden of Eden, God gave to both the man and the woman joint dominion over the planet and its creatures. Read Genesis 1:28. As believers, we are to be laboring to restore the perfection of that original joint dominion over this planet. It was sin that first...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Christ's second coming to the Mount of Olives (as presented in Zechariah 14:4-5) does NOT take place at the end of all human history on this planet. We know that it can't possibly be that, because Zechariah 14:16 goes on to describe a "year to year" progress of history continuing even AFTER...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Of course that Isaiah 61:2 portion in red was going to happen in the future for that generation of Jews which Christ was speaking to concerning the "days of vengeance". But you forget where that reference to "vengeance" first came from. It originated in the Deuteronomy 32 "Song of Moses" that...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    As for that "END", 1 Peter 4:7 wrote that "the END of all things is AT HAND" as Peter was writing those words around AD 65. Something was coming to a close back then at the "LAST HOUR" that John said had arrived (1 John 2:18). You are probably thinking that this phrase "then cometh the END"...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    No, that is not it. You are misquoting Paul. Paul did not write "Christ the first". He wrote "Christ the First-fruits". These words do not carry quite the same meaning. This is a Jewish term referring to the "First-fruits" of the first barley harvest in Israel during Passover week in...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    It isn't necessary for those bodily-resurrected individuals to be located on this earth in order to be alive in those immortal bodies. The destined inheritance that all believers are to experience is to be presented faultless before the presence of God's glory with exceeding joy (Jude 24). It...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    While I don't go as far as the @The Light does with those many listed resurrection events in comment #331, the Hebrews 9:28 KJV verse does NOT limit the coming appearance of Christ to ONLY two occasions. It only speaks of the second coming in particular, but it neither proves nor disproves...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Absolutely true. Absolutely false. There is not a shred of scripture proof that anybody raised from the dead in scripture ever died again. This goes totally contrary to the scripture's stated truth that in the bodily-resurrection process, those "children of the resurrection" never CAN die...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I have already written that I accept Paul's statement that Christ was the "First-fruits". What I do NOT accept is your own personal definition of what that "First-fruits" title actually means. I'm not contradicting Paul. Paul himself wrote about the church having the "First-fruits" among them...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I'm not changing anything. You yourself are trying to erase the facts concerning the resurrected 144,000 First-fruits. Paul spoke about the church still having the "First-fruits" of the Spirit's work of redemption of the bodies of men in Romans 8:23. These were patiently waiting with all the...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    But those individuals resurrected bodily from death back in OT times and NT times during Christ's ministry ARE presently alive in those glorified bodies in heaven. They were taken there in the "rapture" to heaven with the returning Christ back in AD 70. They were the "alive" and "remaining"...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You are trying yourself to change this term from "First-fruits" to "First-fruit", which should not be done. And I am not trying to change this term. Christ WAS the "First-fruits". The group of 144,000 Jewish resurrected saints were ALSO called "First-fruits unto God and the Lamb" in Rev...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Nobody was an eye-witness of Christ rising from the dead, yet we know beyond a doubt that He accomplished this. The resurrected bodies of saints are changed into the incorruptible and immortal "in the twinkling of an eye". Just how long do you think it takes for a resurrected person to ascend...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I said there are archeological proofs that Christ returned to the Mount of Olives back in AD 70 and resurrected His saints, returning to heaven with them. We also have almost every single writer in the NT testifying that this second coming return was at hand for that generation, as well as a...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    ANYBODY resurrected to life again in scripture necessarily was given an incorruptible and immortal body form. That is how the resurrectoin process works, according to 1 Cor. 15:51-54. And you have misquoted 1 Cor. 15:20-23. It does NOT say that Jesus was the first to be resurrected unto...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    No, Romans 11 is not any different than what I've written. Romans 11 rather confirms what I'm saying. Paul wrote that natural ethnic Israel had only a "remnant" at that present time (Rom. 11:5) which were believing the gospel. This was prophesied by Isaiah long ago (Is. 10:21-22) and by the...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I believe God's statement concerning the people of Israel back in Deut. 7:6, 14:2 and the like. "For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth." Daniel was referring...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I'm not changing anything. You just aren't reading what I'm writing carefully enough. The "abomination of desolation" which Daniel wrote about in both Daniel 11:31 and 12:11 is interpreted by Luke 21:20 as being "Jerusalem surrounded by armies". The AOD was invading ARMIES which encircled...