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That's okay that you don't get my points...for the next person down the line that does take things seriously, it just might make perfect sense.

At our physical death, the spirit "returns to God who gave it" (Ecclesiastes 12:7) to deal with it as He wills. The spirit of humans and that of angels has an origination point from God Himself. But neither the spirit of humans nor of angels inherently possess an eternal character by...

You should take note that from Ezekiel 28:11-19, the particular "Prince of Tyre" addressed there was pronounced "PERFECT IN THY WAYS from the day thou wast created till iniquity was found in thee." This is NOT something that could be descriptive of a human "Prince of Tyre". The human "Prince...

Spirits ARE capable of being destroyed. They are not inherently eternal in character. God creates the spirit, soul, and body of all mankind. Paul expressed his desire in 1 Thess. 5:23 for his Thessalonian readers that their spirit, soul, and body would be preserved unblameably in the...

You are then disagreeing with how God defines the fulfillment of an "AT HAND" prophecy in Ezekiel 12:21-28. Yes, Revelation 1:19 does speak of past, present, and future prophecies in relation to John's time. But those prophecies concerning the present AND the future were then "AT HAND" for...

I agree that the "mello" term can sometimes mean the emphasis on the certainty of something intended to happen instead of its imminence. But that is not the majority of the use of this "mello" word in scripture. As usual, context is the main key. And Revelation 1:19's context concerning...

NOT TRUE. Isaiah 27:1 predicted that God would slay that Dragon. Ezekiel 28:18-19 predicted just HOW God would slay Satan, the formerly "anointed cherub" which fell into iniquity. God said He would bring a fire out of that fallen cherub, and reduce him to ashes upon the earth in the sight of...

F2F, your caustic style of posting replies doesn't help in making your case. We get it that you don't believe scripture speaks of fallen celestial angels. We are disagreed on this point, but just because I think you are mistaken doesn't mean I think of you as a liar. All of us as believers...

No, the "greatest trick" is that the institutional church has convinced people that Satan was never slain by God as He had promised to do, so that "never shalt thou exist anymore" (Ez. 28:18-19). That fallen "anointed cherub" who had been in Eden was burned up and reduced to ashes on the earth...

Of course, the Greek word for "angels" can be used for either a human messenger or a celestial messenger. Just one example is a reference to human "messsengers" (angelon) being sent to Christ from John, asking if He truly was the Messiah. (Luke 7:24). It depends on the context as to which...

The human "children of the devil" (as Christ termed the Pharisees) can be present on earth without their "father" the devil still being in existence. But you have the wrong definition of the "second death". Scripture calls the "second death" the Lake of Fire. These were the conditions in the...

I am not focusing on the "meta" term. Scripture's emphasis in Revelation 1:19 is not just on the "meta" term, but on the "mellei" term, which tells us just how soon those future events would transpire. "Write therefore the things that you have seen, and the things that are, and the things...

Yes, it does do that. As the ancient prophecy in Psalms 68:11related, "The Lord gave the word: the women that publish the tidings are a great host." This fits those women Paul listed in Romans 16, for certain. The Romans 16:20 promise that God would crush Satan under the feet of the believers...

Try responding to the single point I made about Satan's destruction from Romans 16:20 to begin with. I can certainly supply more. But I'm not about to dump a dissertation on you all at once. That wouldn't be fair, and nobody reading this can digest all of that proof at one time anyway. God...

It took me a while to chew on all the various texts both OT and NT that speak about Satan's destruction and that of his devils and unclean spirits. I was skeptic also for quite some time. But I had to be honest with myself where the scripture proofs were leading, and not to let my former...

Just for starters, consider the Romans 16:20 text which I gave above, written around AD 60. Paul gave an encouraging promise to the Roman believers that "...the God of peace shall crush Satan under your feet SHORTLY." Satan only had "a short time" to operate on earth in the first century after...

I do. There is scripture proof enough that Satan and his devils were destroyed - which tells us both where and when God accomplished this. But I doubt you would give this scripture proof any consideration. People are rather heavily invested in continuing to have a spiritual enemy to which...

There IS Biblical evidence for Satan and the entire demonic realm having been destroyed back in AD 70. As I used to do, you have probably read over these texts numerous times over the years without recognizing these scriptural proofs that the entire Satanic realm was destroyed long ago. It is...

God has given this world the opportunity since AD 70 to demonstrate their behavior towards Him without the presence of the Satanic realm anymore to influence them one way or another. The results are that mankind still chooses to disobey God, and shows all kinds of evil which comes out of their...

There are those of us who quote the various scriptures telling of the time when Satan was going to be destroyed utterly so that he existed no more. I have given these various texts often before. Romans 16:20 had Paul encouraging the Roman believers that "The God of peace shall crush Satan...