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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    "There is nothing new under the sun", as you know. I could hardly invent something totally unique to myself alone. I am seeking for others who might have come to any of the same conclusions from their reading. If you are not one of them, that's quite alright...I keep looking and posting...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    Okay, here goes...I'll just have to duck if the off-topic police come around... Day #1 - God divides the light from darkness. The fallen Adam (who lived to be 930 - almost all of that first thousand years) provided the main example of God, the source of all light, having to separate Himself...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    Obviously, no - nobody here will be alive then. Every believer alive at present should not react with fear to our turbulent current events, and should just buckle down and follow our marching orders given in the Great Commission to Christ's disciples. No need to panic with what God is planning...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    Sure, I can explain how I arrive at that particular dated year of AD 3033, but it veers just a bit off the topic, if you can endure that. Many before me have recognized (including some on this forum) that God planned a total of 7,000 years for fallen mankind's history on this planet before He...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    This post is really about the rapture or Paul's 1 Cor. 15:51-52 text concerning the resurrection experience. It's best to keep discussions of the millennium separate, don't you think? Well, I am a Preterist, and I strongly teach about a future return of Christ in glory for the next...
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    Perseverance of the Saints is different from Once Saved Always Saved

    Perseverance. An unfortunate word choice for the "TULIP" acronym. It should have been "PRESERVATION of the saints" instead. This puts the emphasis not upon us, but upon God's power to retain our salvation status. "Once saved always saved". Another unfortunate word choice for the "OSAS"...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    Do you actually have no perception of what a scripture context is? Matthew 16:27-28 says "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here which shall not...
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    Why Antiochus Epiphanes IV Is Not The Little Horn - Part 2: "exceeding great"

    Just some thoughts on this "cutting" reference... In the OT, the manner in which a serious covenant or an agreement between two parties was made was done by cutting an animal or animals in half. God did this with Abraham in Genesis 15:8-21 to confirm the absolute certainty of His promises to...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    Those "last days" had progressed to 1 John 2:18 saying, "little children IT IS THE LAST HOUR" as John was writing that statement. Something was then coming to an end in that first century. Paul said that the ends of the ages had arrived, and that there would be a new set of "the ages that are...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    The bodily resurrection "an old myth"?? It was Job who put forth a description of his physical body being raised from the dust of the grave in Job 14:12-15. "So man lieth down, and riseth not UNTIL the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. O that thou...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    You are forgetting that Paul wrote to his first-century readers, saying, "...they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come." (1 Cor. 10:11). Hebrews 9:26 said the same thing about those first century days. "But NOW once in the consummation of the ages hath he...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    This is better translated, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying death in no wise will he see forever". Christ repeated this in John 11:26 to Martha, just before He raised Lazarus from the tomb. "And whosoever liveth and believeth in me in no wise shall die forever." The...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    LOL, You are so wrong...that was exactly what Christ was telling His disciples. You are grasping at straws to avoid the obvious nature of Christ's statement. The Mount of Transfiguration was NOT Christ "coming in His kingdom" with the angels, and dispensing rewards to everyone according to...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    Yes, He did, according to His own promise that there would be some of those He was speaking to during His earthly ministry who would not have died before He came in the glory of His Father with His angels, to give rewards to everyone according to their works (Matt. 16:27-28). I believe Him...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    You are incorrect. The Full Preterists NEVER teach that Christ BODILY returned in AD 70. When the Full Preterists teach that Christ never planned to return bodily to this planet at all to bodily resurrect His saints, this truly IS false teaching and complete heresy. This false teaching is...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    Of course, there is no 2,000 year gap anywhere between Matthew 24:21 and Matthew 24:29. The Great Tribulation which was promised to fall on those in Judea and Jerusalem in that first-century generation was the same generation who also experienced the bodily return of Christ "IMMEDIATELY AFTER...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    You are not correct on the identification of the CLAY in the feet of Daniel's statue. Isaiah 64:8 tells us who the CLAY was. Speaking of his own people, the ethnic nation of Israel, Isaiah said, "But now, O Lord, thou art our father; WE ARE THE CLAY, and thou our potter; and we all are the...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    Of course Christ's return was visible back in AD 70. Zechariah 12 tells us that it would be those ancient tribes and families of Israel who would be doing that mourning in Jerusalem when they saw Christ's return (which was going to be to the Mount of Olives location). Revelation 1:7 repeats...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    No, a third coming of Christ does NOT contradict the scriptures you are submitting here. The Hebrews 9:27 verse says nothing either one way or another about a third coming. It doesn't prove a third coming, and it doesn't disprove a third coming. All it does is mention a second appearance of...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    In Daniel's image, there are no other one-world governments that successfully establish themselves once the "stone" kingdom of Christ strikes that image and reduces the entire thing to dust on the wind. That single blow was already struck back in AD 70. The "stone" kingdom is currently...