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I just duzn't know how many times you need to be told this to pay attention (period?): -- Part of God's incredible grace was that He gave His precious Holy Spirit to us ... to make it mucho easier to follow Jesus and obey His commandments. -- Following and obeying Jesus has nothing to do with...

When you fall short, you simply repent ... as in 1 John 1:7---2:1, pick yourself up, and continue on! Hasn't anyone ever taught you this?

Solomon in Ecclesiastes 12: 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is man’s all. 14 For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether good or evil. Yes, often in the OT, God says to keep His...

Thou just haven't bin payin' attention ... I've already laid it out ... the NT teaches that disobedience really displays unbelief. Der are many more verses WARNING about the need to OBEY than there are about just simply believing! NT belief includes obedience. Or, at least, striving to obey...

God saves only those He “knows (approves of)” … And this has nothing to do with God’s approval of John 3:16 believers! God doesn’t give people His free gift of grace, and then approve of them! That’s ridiculous! … No, John 3:16 believers must gain God’s approval. So, there are 2 types of...

IMO, the above warning was written to the "faithful" (1:2) saints ... to encourage them to continue in their faithfulness! Yes, few understand what the NT really means by being "in Christ". They think it means once receiving the Holy Spirit. There are about 10 NT verses which warn: Eternal...

Yes, IMO, this refers to all of Romans 6, part of Romans 5, etc. The gift of God is only realized, taken advantage of, etc. by those who actually are involved in what Paul has been warning about: the necessity of NOT being slaves of sin, but instead being ... slaves of obedience, slaves of...

And, believe me when I promise: I can prove from the NT that "the crown of life" refers to eternal life. BTW, the key in the above verse is that those who love the Lord will OBEY Him. Again, care to see the Scriptural proof? All I do with today's Laodicean church is to quote Scriptural...

Yes, of course, butski we need to understand ... what the NT really teaches about SAVING belief/faith. It teaches way beyond merely John 3:16 and Eph 2:7-8. E.G. The NT teaches that disobedience is unbelief (in Hebrews). And it teaches that one must choose to be obedient, which leads to...

From our viewpoint, yes ... but not from God's! He knows WHO His elect are from BEFORE the foundation of the world, right?

All of the following is talking about eternal life vs. eternal death. 3 times in these 8 verses, Paul warns that sin results in eternal death. Must he tell these believers that unbelievers who sin are going to hell? No, of course not ... they already know that, don't they! Obviously, Paul is...

Of course, everything hinges on exactly WHO "the elect" are! And God has always known exactly WHO His elect are, but you certainly have NO idea who they are!

Yes, if one believes that one's final and ultimate salvation is a life-long process, which I believe the NT Scriptures do teach.

The writer of Hebrews makes a big point of DISOBEDIENCE is UNBELIEF. Disobedience of what? Of following Jesus' gospel, which includes obeying His commands. He said, "If you love Me, obey My commands." He said, "If you love Me, do what I say." And etc. Is anyone going to heaven who doesn't love...

Nothing ... He has done His part. It is up to believers to do their part. There have NEVER been ANY one-sided covenants! And believers today are up to their eye-balls in God's new covenant, which majors in the arrival of His Messiah and His indwelling Spirit, which was given to us to help us...

All posts written by the ATP, and all posts replying to him, and a total waste of time! But, carry on, if you must.

Sorry, read it again ... Paul warns: Choose to be slaves of God (not slaves of sin), or else!

Again, I urge everyone to partake of Romans 6, and try to understand what Paul is saying! To summarize: He is writing to believers, and he is warning ... sin results in eternal death. He gives more details: belief >> obedience >> righteousness >> holiness >> eternal life Romans 6 ... read it...

This is extremely sophmoric. I've already explained that ... God does His part (full of grace) by giving salvation. But, man CAN do His part by choosing to throw it away. Why is this so difficult to understand?

IMO, it is like a father giving his 16-year-old son a car, but takes it back when he misuses it or whatever. Also, God can say ... "Look, how merciful I was, giving you eternal life, but you chose to throw it away. You threw away that most incredible gift which I gave to you! I did My part, but...