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  1. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    That is a passage about our rapture. Congrats on getting some scripture that is on target here. Too bad it has no timing as you allude to here. Ha
  2. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    When they see that event, THEN those people should boogie on out of there pronto. NOTHING to do with the long past rapture, sorry. I am amazed you would post such an unrelated verse.
  3. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    He never said the great tribulation. Many agree that this seems likely. However if the rapture is before the seven years and the antichrist is not revealed until later, why would we expect to see that guy? Till the rapture! However the people of the tribulation will know the days because we...
  4. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You said this " You have no idea what you are talking about. Zero idea. " perhaps dealing with specifics might be better than your personal attacks. For example, show the research you pretend to have on something. :)
  5. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You have empty words and an opinion that is wicked.
  6. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    It is evil to call compassion for victims (many whom are children) of mass murder 'antisemetic'! That is a violation of truth and language and meaning of words. It is also justifying the wicked and calling evil good and being a reproach to the cause.l
  7. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    OK, and so why post that here? Did I disagree with this? The final wrath. The whole seven years is also wrath I would contend. Those who? The folks on earth. The Raptured are already saved and gone and even returned with Jesus! As for the extra days after He returns, that is a matter of...
  8. dad

    you can lose your salvation but remember you never be unforgivable if you are on the path of goodness

    You said "you can lose your salvation.." Sorry, His gifts are not like yo yos or walmart refunds.
  9. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Loving Jesus is not hating Israel. Hating evil such as the evil done by unbelievers of the state of Israel today is something God does and demands we do. I can't imagine what the survivors and families of the multitudes slaughtered by Israel think of Jesus, when a supposed christian gung ho...
  10. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Whatever, it sure was not 1948 or anytime in history
  11. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    No, the issue was the mass murders of innocents by Israel. God is against that. He did not bring them back and give them the land, that only happens near the very end when the few surviving Jews there get saved. Meanwhile, He no more supports secular Israel than He does Hitler
  12. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    No. No more than this was in 1948 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my...
  13. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    God does not bless unbelieving terrorists.
  14. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Yes. Like Christians that bring light to the world, these guys are olive trees that pipe oil from God to a candlestick for the world. So the word candlestick in itself does not have to mean church
  15. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You have shown a verse with the word candlestick, replaced it with church, ignored that the word is used for pre church as well as post church believers etc etc. All you need to show now is honesty to admit that your pitiful attempt at molesting a verse has been well and truly decimated There...
  16. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Yet no mention of it exists and so saying it repeatedly does not make it so Yes there will be saints alive after we are gone here. New believers. Except you made that up. They are the tribulation witnesses, lights to the world. Nothing to do with the church Except you were just defeated...
  17. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    No the term is used as I said, in the OT for the churches and for the trib saints. What is to deny? Nothing in there says church at all. Read it. The trib witnesses are likened to candlesticks. The churches ALSO are liked to candlesticks, and the comparison is also used in the old testament...
  18. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    The word candlestick is used. That is a word describing a vessel that gives light. In the case of the old testament believers, they were not the church. Yet a candlestick was used in the temple and elsewhere. A candlestick was used describing churches, A candlestick also is used for the...
  19. dad

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    How would pointing out that no church was mentioned at all in the only verse given to support that 'the church' was still here in the last seven years? It was claimed that the verse was actually talking about the church because it had the word candlestick in it. I exposed that claim for what it...