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How does this passage prove when He returns the Kingdom of God shall be established on this earth? How do you reconcile that opinion with verses that indicate this earth shall be utterly consumed by fire when Christ returns? According to this passage on the day the Lord returns all that...

No man with the exception of Christ shall be bodily resurrected FOREVER before the last day when the last trumpet sounds that time given this earth whereby man MUST be saved shall be no longer! Any human bodily resurrected from the dead before the end is destined to physically die again...

Every living breathing creature upon the earth is a 'soul' as long as they possess the breath of life (spirit). They only become physically dead when the breath of life, that is spirit leaves mortal flesh. Once the breath of life (spirit) departs from the body of every human there is no longer...

Honestly David, I basically stopped replying to your posts and some others here because it became an exercise in futility. When you can prove that you understand what eternal/everlasting life that Christ promises to whosoever lives and believes in Him means, maybe we Amils can have a serious...

EXACTLY! Millennialists refuse to believe that Christ has given those of faith His Word! Once we believe we have been born again spiritually, and though our mortal flesh will perish, our spirit, being a living soul will NEVER die because the life we received in Christ according to God's grace...

This is a poor translation. John doesn't say "they came to life", that's an unbiblical assumption. John simply writes "the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his...

John does NOT write of "A" first resurrection of the faithful who are raised and reign with Christ. Nowhere in the passage does John ever mention A first resurrection. He tells us only that there are martyrs for the faith who were beheaded he defines as "souls" who lived and reigned with...

Charlie, you are again making assumptions without supporting proof from the Word of God. If the first resurrection is a future event of those being bodily resurrected to reign with Christ for 1,000 years, we must conclude that the martyred faithful saints of Christ must be killed during this...

The souls according to John were complete physical people alive on this earth before being physically martyred for their faith. John writes that "they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" before being faithful unto death. They were beheaded for their faithfulness, yet John writes...

Charlie, you begin with the assumption that the first resurrection is physically of the saints that will come to pass when Christ comes the Second time. In this assumption you ignore the FACT that Scripture tells us the first resurrection is the physical resurrection of Christ. Since you...

Because Charlie is arguing the first resurrection is physical. My response is 'how can that be' since our mortal body will not be resurrected immortal and incorruptible until the last trumpet sounds! According to Scripture, when our mortal body dies, the eternal spirit of faithful saints...

Charlie, without the Spirit of Christ making us spiritually alive together with Christ, no one would possess faith to believe Christ. That is the purpose for which Christ has sent His Spirit to be IN US! John 3:6 (KJV) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the...

The first resurrection for those who die in faith is SPIRITUAL! It happens when those who were "dead in trespasses and sins", walking according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience. To have...

Okay, this is a good starting point. We agree the Kingdom of God that came with Christ to earth is not a physical Kingdom but is a spiritual Kingdom. When Christ says that man MUST be born again to both know and enter the Kingdom of God, is our entrance into His Kingdom through His Spirit in...

We no longer belong to the dead when we have been born again. At the moment of new birth we have been made eternally alive in Christ and even though our body will one day breathe its last, we as spiritual body shall be living souls in heaven that we may always been where Christ is.

With more context Paul says he is at home while clothed in his body of flesh, but while being clothed in flesh and blood he cannot be physically with the Lord. For that reason Paul longs to put off his body (die) because he would much rather be spiritually present with the Lord in heaven rather...

Those who die in faith, need not come to life again to live and reign with Christ! Why? Because the life we receive when we are born of God is eternal, and not even death of our body can take away the everlasting life we have through Christ's Spirit in us. It is written that when our body is...

Charlie, you seem unable or unwilling to distinguish between the Kingdom of God that now is and the Kingdom of God that shall be when Christ comes again. Unless we come to the same understanding of the Kingdom of God that came with Christ when He came to earth a man, we will never be able to...

Your POV (1) Charlie, this view does not address the inconsistencies and even contradictions a literal one thousand years of time creates. How can the same thousand years be both past and future and still be literally one thousand years? Reply to POV (2) Some translations do cause apparent...

Marty, I believe the thousand years is symbolically time given the church on earth to proclaim the gospel to mankind. It coincides with Satan's binding because the Kingdom of God is being built then, as the gospel is proclaimed, and many hear the gospel and believe, and are assured that they...