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April, I'm sorry, but I'm getting extremely frustrated here. I was brash with words earlier, I acknowledged that and apologized to you several times. I respectfully explained my beliefs to you. I haven't once "told you what to do" and turned the other cheek several times. There's no way I...

You only state that because he agree with your view. He's not holding any respect for other views. I don't believe marriage equates to "just a piece of paper". Rather, I stated that marriage pre-dates governments. It is EXTREMEL:Y important, and not to be treated as "just a piece of paper"...

I'm sorry, you are being incredibly disrespectful here. I feel like you're not interested in being respectful either.

That is not remotely accurate of anyone's views here. I'm fine with you having your view. But please don't so drastically misrepresent or disrespect mine.

That's not you actually addressing my comment.

April, I'm not sure what you want here. I believe STRONGLY in the sacredness of God's gift/covenant. I can't deny that. If me believing in that upsets you, I'm sorry you're upset- I really am. But that doesn't change the fact that I do strongly hold those beliefs and I can't deny those beliefs...

Ok, I acknowledge your call there and don't hold it against you at all (such would be very silly of me). I do believe very strongly in God's gift of marriage. And i again apologize if something miscommunicated or was uncalled for rashly said.

If you would ever want to talk, including me sharing personal stories or stuff, feel free to PM me. I am sorry that things were so poorly received at the beginning. And of course, prayers for you and your beloved.

I do believe that this is an extremely important topic. Marriage is such a God given jewel and blessing.

Ok.

That doesn't seem to directly answer my question. I stood with a man and with God, and made a covenant for all to see. That's called marriage. Me just thinking "I really like you and I'm committed to you" was not a covenant with God. It wasn't marriage. It was an important pre-curser step...

Do you believe God has a part in marriage? Or that it’s just a meaninglessness product of human governments? Or something else?

Here, let’s start over. I believe that marriage is a covenant between man, woman, and God. It predates mortal governments and will out last then too. Though of course there is a legal component to things nowadays (its an involved world). How about you April?

But I do STRONGLY believe in God’s covenant of marriage and that not other ways. That belief isn’t because of anything you said and long long predates me “meeting” you. I acknowledge your right to have your beliefs and your actions. But am I supposed to not state my beliefs here?

So... how am I supposed to state my beliefs that I hold very dear here?

What would you like me to say April?

With all possible respect here: sexual relations are reserved for those whom have made a commitment between the husband + wife + God. Anything else is not's God's way. If you and this man aren't yet in a position to be fully committed (which includes getting married), that's fine. But then...

Marriage is not remotely "just a piece of paper", it is a God given covenant between a woman (the wife) + a man (the husband) + God. If you are not yet in a position to make that God sanctioned covenant, then that's totally ok. But don't mock God by pretending you already made that covenant.

Mario Kart is a classic, in all of the many editions that have come out. It's personally not my favorite, but I'll certainly join in if it's a party.

I have address this question with you directly several times, only to have you blatantly ignore me. I'm not interested in doing so again.