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Those verses, including what you have underlined, say nothing about whether the gathered elect were alive or dead when they were gathered. Making such assumptions is not being sharp in reading God's word! The "four winds" mentioned in Matthew 24:31 shows that it referring to the earth, not...

Perhaps during your own searches of the Scriptures you missed these clues from the Old Testament that the church does not go through the Great Tribulation, i.e. the rapture is pre-tribulation: Isaiah 26: 19) Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing...

I don't think we will be able to understand what heaven, and being a spirit being, is like until after our resurrection when we will get to experience it. That's because, as our scientists will inform us, it most likely means existing in other dimensions that we don't have access too in our...

It is the same Greek word as Jesus used in John 20:17 (WEB): (17) Jesus said to her, “Don’t hold me, for I haven’t yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” So Jesus was saying in John 6:62 that he...

Can you give Biblical examples? What about Jesus' words in John 6:62 (WEB)?: (62) Then what if you would see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?

If Jesus just existed in God's mind before his human birth, then how do you harmonise that idea with the following verses?: John 6 (WEB): (38) For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me. (46) Not that anyone has seen the Father, except he who is...

I guess God is very good at predicting the future! ;)

I don't know why you seem to think that I am arguing that Jesus was God - I am not! Jesus is not God. I agree that Jesus is a completely separate being from God. He is God's only begotten Son. It doesn't! My posts were about Jesus existing as a spirit being before he was made human. The...

Or as more modern translations than the KJV translate it (e.g. WEB): (8) All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been killed. It's the names of people that has been written...

Indeed. Paul wrote in verse 8, "But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever." - so Paul is claiming that this quotation was God talking to His Son, Jesus, and Jesus is not Yahweh. Again, Paul tells us that this was talking about Jesus, and Yahweh is Jesus' God. Yahweh is...

What about cherubims and seraphims? Philippians 2:6 tells us Jesus existed "in the form of God". We know that he was mortal, for 1 Timothy 6:16 says of God, "who alone has immortality", and because God was able to change him into a mortal human, and Jesus died.

I'm not trying to claim that Jesus is God - I think you must be getting confused about the point I was making, which was, "Jesus did not exist as a man before he was born by Mary, but he did exist as a spirit being before that, as God's only begotten son". By quoting that John 8:42 I was trying...

I rarely rely on the NLT because it is based on The Living Bible, which is a parphrase translation rather than a precise, accurate translation. For example, in verse 15 it says "visible likeness" which is not an accurate translation of the Greek word eikon, which means image, likeness or...

I think that I've agreed with everything that you've written so far, so I'm surprised that I now find I'm having to disagree with you on that last point. Yes, Jesus did not exist as a man before he was born by Mary, but he did exist as a spirit being before that, as God's only begotten son...

Yes, Paul quotes the Old Testament verse Joel 2:32, which refers to God Yahweh. However, he's not implying that it is referring to Jesus rather than Yahweh. Verse 11: (11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. is referring to Isaiah 28:16 (Therefore thus...

No he doesn't! Romans 10:9 (WEB): (9) that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Paul says we must confess Jesus is our Lord, not that he is God. He says that God raised Jesus from the dead, so...

You had typed: Okay, so if you were not assuming that God gave up His glory, you were nevertheless saying that God gave glory to Jesus. But to be in harmony with Isaiah 42:8, where God says that He doesn't give His glory to anyone else, then surely the only conclusion is that the glory that...

It looks to me to be pure obstinance to insist that "yesterday" means "eternity past"! That's not what the word means, in English or the Greek word chthes. The Greek word ctthes is only used three times, and it is always translated as 'yesterday' The other two uses are: Acts 7:28) Do you...

You are assuming that if Jesus is not God then God must have given up His glory and given it to Jesus, which is obviously not correct! Your logic is flawed. God has glory, Jesus has glory, angels have glory, men have glory - even the sun, moon and stars have glory (1 Corinthians 15:41). Their...

It is a correct statement, of course. Jesus, while a man, was the mediator between God and men, and by the sacrifice of his life he was able to mediate the New Covenant. Moses was the mediator of the Old Covenant, who came between God and Israel as the messenger of it, and he sprinkled the...