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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Spiritual Israelite, I thought I had saved Gedge's complete study of Daniel's 70 weeks, but I'm sorry to say I can't find it. The little I posted here I had copied to my document folder, and sadly it seems to be all that I have left of his EXCELLENT and incredibly thorough study. sorry This...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I don't find it baffling at all. The 490 years were literal, so why not the final one week, separated from the whole, but still falling within the whole. You can get a lot of Gedge's study going to his profile page and look for his on-line discussions here: Why do Dispies count Daniels...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Because the final one week is within the 490 years. The following study comes from an in-depth article written before his death by Christian Gedge "BC 538 Cyrus decree, BC 520 Darius re-issued, BC 457 Artaxerxes One decree that was issued and re-issued: Ezra 6:14 (KJV) And the elders of the...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    It appears to me Rich that it is yourself that has no clue as to what church is. Even after showing us how church is defined, you still don't understand! Just because a confused angry mob is assembled together does not negate the FACT the Church existed during the days of Moses when he led the...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Daniel 9:27 (KJV) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    This is the make-up of the church (small c) as it exists on earth. Within this small c church is also The Church (capital C) who are spiritually in the Kingdom of God through Christ's Spirit in us. Knowing there are mere 'professors' of Christ as well as 'possessors' of Christ together now is...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    The prophecy that speaks of the Messiah to come WAS directed to the church in the wilderness that was led by Moses, and fulfilled through the first advent of Christ. Acts 7:37-38 (KJV) This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up...
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    Verifying The Time Prophecies By History.

    That may have been how ethnic Jews would think, but you're forgetting, yes, Christ's disciples were Jews, but more importantly they were believers, disciples of Christ. They had been taught by Christ for three years. Speaking to His disciples, who happen to be Jewish, Christ tells them what they...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Kind of reminds me of the old saying "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"!
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I agree many are deceived by Satan. How are those who are saved being deceived by Satan? Doesn't the fact that they are saved prove Satan cannot deceive them? 1 John 4:4-6 (KJV) Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    When was Satan ever able to possess people of faith? Before being bound Satan had the ability to take way the word that was sown in their hearts of those hearing without understanding. Taking the word sown in their hearts "lest they should believe and be saved." Satan only has power over...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    If Satan is not now bound, how is the Kingdom of God being built as Gentiles, no longer deceived by him have been and still are entering the Kingdom of God as they become saved and are no longer in bondage to fear of death?
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    As well as the angels that were cast out of heaven and bound to the earth when Christ was born. Revelation 12:7-9 (KJV) And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Why would I doubt the words of the LORD? Satan's binding is for a single purpose. That is "that he should deceive the nations no more". I've already shown you how the nations had been deceived through the power of death prior to the advent of Christ, and how Christ defeating death has removed...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Why are you asking me this? Since they are spirit beings, where do you believe they went after being cast out?
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    What's your point?
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    When Christ came to earth the time had come for the prince of this world (Satan) to be cast out. Christ proved He possesses power of God by casting devils and demons out of many who had been possessed through demonic powers. By being lifted up on the cross, Christ has the power to draw all...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    The advent of Christ is definitely when Satan was bound. I believe Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven and bound to the earth when Christ was born. IMO that marks the beginning of Christ defeating Satan, but the birth of Christ only bound Satan to the earth. Because Scripture seems...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I believe that Rev 12 began to be fulfilled when Christ was born. That was when Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven and bound to the earth. The prophecy is on-going from that time, because the woman, symbolizing the Church is still being persecuted by the dragon (Satan) and his...
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    Romans 11:25 - Partially blinded

    Blindness is only in part because Israel has always had some faithful within her. According to Paul there has always been a "remnant" saved not only from days of Old, but also of Jews living in the days of Paul. Romans 11:2-5 (KJV) God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye...