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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    This is why Christ tells us we must be born again! Not because we were born physically dead in need of being resurrected. But because we are physically born spiritually dead in trespasses and sins. That's why being born again is NOT being resurrected to physical life again but IS being...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Living souls are alive in heaven through spirit and have no physical body. All spirits return to God when our mortal body dies. Since the first advent of Christ only the spirit, as living soul shall return to God in heaven. Those physically dying in unbelief are described as being as the...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Those of saving faith neither saved themselves, nor are they able to keep themselves saved. This power comes from the Holy Spirit within. Granted there are multitudes of people among believers who profess to have eternal life through Christ's Spirit. Will they manage to keep themselves saved...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    The only means by which one is a living soul is by having life. Life is defined as a breath that is from God who is Spirit. It is the spirit within every living breathing creature that gives life. Life can be found in both the physical realm and the spiritual realm. When mankind is...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What exactly will the gathering up all believers look/feel like if not great tribulation before being caught up to meet the Lord in the air?
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Yes, the text does prove Amil. Because saints are being martyred and have been martyred just as John writes. The saints John describes as being alive AFTER they were physically killed during this time he writes a thousand years. The doctrine of Premil would have us believe these martyred...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    How could Amils NOT believe saints are being martyred during this symbolic period of time, since we believe a/the thousand years does not equate to one thousand years in the future, because it symbolizes an unspecified amount of time that began with the advent of Christ coming to earth a man...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I understand your frustration Taken! It's very hard to argue against God, so you are showing some little restraint not trying to answer that which you cannot! After all I simply asked you to RECONCILE verses of Scripture (I did not ask you to believe what I say) with what you have been taught...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Have you forgotten that Amils view a thousand years to represent an unspecified amount of time that began with the first advent of Christ and shall end when the seventh trumpet begins to sound? Since saints have been martyred, are being martyred, and shall continue to be martyred throughout...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You don't answer because you CANNOT! To try would make you to argue against the Word of God, and even though you clearly have little understanding of Biblical eschatology, even you can figure out that arguing against God would make one foolish! You need to go back to the Biblical doctrines you...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Don't hold your breath, I'm sure not holding mine!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    HELLO! Exactly David! They lived (past tense) and reigned (past tense) with Christ during this period of time John writes a thousand years! And there shall be NO bodily resurrections from the graves for them, because, as I've shown, NONE shall be bodily resurrected immortal until the hour...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I can't help but notice that you ignore the questions I put before you??? If your doctrine did not force contradictions into the Word of God, you would be able to answer the questions I put before YOU in posts #3513 & 3516. But you are correct, the Bible is NOT a convoluted, and contradictory...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That's not revealing six times, that's John repeating six times how the thousand years are to be understood. You have only Rev 20 nothing else from the Word of God to prove what you assume! And not even Rev 20 proves your unbiblical doctrines true.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Do you believe these martyred saints will be bodily resurrected again to live and reign with Christ for one thousand years on this earth after the return of Christ? If so, how do you reconcile that with the fact that it is written there will be none bodily resurrected again before an hour...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    After living and reigning with Christ a thousand years, do they get beheaded after that? When are they beheaded? Is the fate for faithful saints really beheading after one thousand years of living and reigning with Christ? Remember they are beheaded for being faithful unto death!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I really find it very difficult to understand why pretrib cannot discern the difference between great tribulation that Christ clearly warns His disciples would suffer in this life, and the wrath of God that shall not come until the last trumpet sounds??? The words Christ spoke from the Mt of...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That Jesus is Christ comes to mankind through the Gospel proclaimed in the power of the Holy Spirit! The disciples would not have understanding of all the indwelling Spirit would teach them, before He was sent to be IN them. But again, I don't know what any of this has to do with saying in...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How does all you say here give you license to argue in Christ and in Jesus are not saying the very same thing??? What does any of this have to do with in Christ and in Jesus meaning the SAME THING? EVEN THOUGH THE OLD COVENANT PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW THE NAME JESUS, THEY DID KNOW ENOUGH TO...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The disciples of Christ could not be martyred before completing the task He was assigning to them, which was "build My church". And that would require the power of the Holy Spirit in them, which had not yet come. (Jo 14:16-17) His disciples would live to be witnesses of His sacrificial death...