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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It happened at the resurrection of Christ which is what Daniel 12:2 is trying to tell us. That’s why Daniel says many but not all, he’s pointing us to the cross which is when the souls of everyone’s sins were forgiven and all that were dead in Christ were given eternal life and all that will...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The seed is the LIVING SOUL that is placed into the earthly body. The seed gets the new body in the resurrection. The resurrection is of the soul not dead earthly bodies.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So what your saying is that God gives the seed (which you say is the physical body) a body. What body does the physical body get? Hopefully this is plain as day that what you’re saying is completely impossible.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You quoted this - 1 Cor 15:37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. What is the seed that God gives a body to? Just a simple...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What is the seed that gets put into the terrestrial body? Simple question, what does the seed represent?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No offense taken.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I love you brother I’m not hurling insults I’m trying to help you see.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Let’s try this. What is the bare grain in verse 37? What is the body that the bare grain is given in verse 38? 1Co 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 1Co 15:38 But God giveth it a body as...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Guys I’m on a phone and I have a hard time posting from a phone.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The only reason you can’t see many but not all is your bias, you can’t read the verse objectively.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    All I did was change the characters so that you could see the grammar can only be many but not all. Nothing I’m telling you contradicts anything in the Bible. Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, Another account of...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The resurrection has absolutely nothing to do with raising dead earthly bodies, that’s why they aren’t mentioned in Matthew. Daniel 12:2 is one of the powerful verses in the Bible to prove the resurrection has nothing to do with raising dead earthly bodies. Everybody takes part in the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    When you guys handle scripture by making it say what you want it to say you have zero chance of ever understanding the scripture.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You’re proving my point. You’re coming to both of those verses both Daniel and Matthew with the assumption that you understand the resurrection therefore the cross CAN NOT be the cross instead of letting the words from both verses correct your error.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If I were to say “And many of the fish that swim in the sea will be caught , some to the dinner table, and some to the taxidermist”. Are you telling me that means I caught all the fish in the sea?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It’s one of the most important verses in the Bible for understanding what the resurrection is and when it started. Daniel 12:2 was fulfilled when MANY but not ALL of the saints rose bodily with Christ.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The main one that comes to mind is “many” in Daniel 12:2. Twisting the use of many to mean a great number rather than “many but not all”. The context and the grammar is unmistakably many but not all. Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I completely agree with you, they do exactly the same things to scripture that futurists do.
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    King nebukedazzer type for antichrist ?

    Deuteronomy 31:9-13, is the Old Covenant. Could you explain how the Antichrist confirms the old covenant?
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    King nebukedazzer type for antichrist ?

    We all know what antichrist is, many people are antichrist but there’s nowhere in the Bible that identifies a single man as The Antichrist. There is no verse in the Bible that says The Antichrist is going sign a peace treaty with Israel. This all made up by futurists.