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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Ok so you tell me what the alter is.
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    King nebukedazzer type for antichrist ?

    I’ll have to say that’s a new one on me.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Your concept of the second death and lake of fire are completely different from mine that’s why I didn’t elaborate.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Revelation 6:9-11 calls them souls because they’re the Old Testament saints before the resurrection. The alter was the cross which means the souls UNDER the alter are the souls in “the heart of the earth”, Abraham’s bosom. Verse 11 is after the resurrection. Rev 6:11 And white robes were...
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    King nebukedazzer type for antichrist ?

    So your saying the antichrists speech is confirmation that God gave Israel the land forever?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes I’m aware of all the verses about hell.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    When you leave this world are you going to heaven unclothed or clothed in the glorified body?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Which one is spiritual and which one physical?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If your asking when we get our new bodies it’s when we leave this world. 2Co 5:4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes the body we have now will die and we will die in our sins along with it if we haven’t accepted Christ. If we accept Christ and our soul has been resurrected from death to eternal life then we get the heavenly body to experience heaven.
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    How to Effectively Study and Interpret of the Bible

    I know what you mean. I listen to a few preachers (very few and infrequent) but I rely totally on the Bible to learn things.
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    Amigo's Question and Answer Thread

    The Old Testament saints including John the Baptist couldn’t be the bride of Christ because Christ had not yet paid for their sins. In the Old Testament the body of Christ was called the tabernacle of David. The tabernacle was the body and David represents Christ.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    They went to everlasting shame and contempt whatever that might be I don’t know.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes the body we have now is corruptible that’s what Paul is saying. It (the soul) is sown into these corruptible bodies. We aren’t the body, the body is just a container that our soul slips into to experience this life. The body doesn’t need a new body it’s the soul that has to be raised up...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Some physical bodies were raised at that time but all souls were resurrected, some to everlasting life and some to everlasting contempt. The Bible tells us exactly who those were that rose bodily and why they were raised, they were raised to judge Israel. Luk 11:32 The men of Nineve shall...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What is sown a natural body? What is the “it”? Replace it with the natural body and you get “The natural body is sown a natural body”. This isn’t complicated at all.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Jhn 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, Jhn 5:29 And shall...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes that’s what Daniel 12:2 says.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You realize that the NIV translator added the word body into that verse where it says “the BODY that is sown”. The Greek word is ambiguous. “Probably strengthened from G4685 (through the idea of extending); to scatter, that is, sow (literally or figuratively): - sow (-er), receive seed.”
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I tried.
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