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That has what to do with the second coming?

No idea what 'gathering' that is. Never heard of a time when Jews were the only believers either. You might as well be reading a sci fi novel. That is not something one figures out it is something one dreams up. No idea what that actually means in your mind. The chosen Jews from the tribes are...

No sense arguing about it. You do not see a gathering together in the air of us anywhere, so why focus on when the church is no longer mentioned? It makes him no such silly thing. IF that were the time of the Rapture, then it would simply mean that particular vision was at the time of the...

Revelation 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and...

Not believers. Where I am, there may you be also, Jesus said. He is not in the grave! Hard to believe the death some people peddle as religion. 2 Corinthians 5:8 Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. If someone is in the grave they...

Being caught up into the air to be forever with Him doesn't sound like the subway system. Repeat all you like. The throne of God and people dressed in white and His temple simply do not sound like anything in this world I am familiar with. The take away from this is that you are intent and...

But are their bodies like Jesus? It is one thing to be with Him in heaven, but who says we have a physical and spirit body there like Him? Spiritual, yes. If the people who died in Christ have their bodies raised up from the dead, where do you think they were before that? We go to be with Him...

He was killed when He was here. That was after 69 weeks. There is no week after that save the final week of history. That did not start thousands of years ago, and when it does start, it will last seven years, not centuries. The time of Jacob's trouble, the time unlike any other time before or...

Zec was about Jesus returning to earth and the Jews getting saved in the end. Not about thousands of years ago. It is one thing to connect the dots. It is another thing to splatter dots all over and imagine some great painting.

Is that really all it represents?

Chapter and verse? Except that at the end of that time the earth and heaven are made new and the old ones pass forever away and all the dead are raised to be judged. You should not get so lost in playing with numbers that you lose track of reality. Light claims to be Pre Trib but understand...

Now that come up hither is at the very end of the tribulation. They have finished their testimony. This is also calling the dead to be raised to life, these two witnesses to be precise. That is not before the wrath. Nor are the people raised here part of the church. No. The old testament...

Revelation 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and...

Many believers have been killed for their faith and many will be during the tribulation. Nothing to do with the Rapture. So what has that to do with the Rapture?? Says who? Chapter and verse? No. The folks in heaven are coming back to earth to have their bodies raised. What they need to...

The bible specifies exactly where they were. Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; So that is...

We can take things as the spirit of the text demands. The bride of Christ is dressed in white and that is not because believers have no sex. Adultery was often used to describe Israel that had forsaken God and worshipped other gods. The text you allude to seems to fit both the Rapture or the...

He did tell him there would be a seven year period in which everlasting righteousness would be brought in. That terrible time for the world is spoken about all over the bible. There is no reason to call it anything but God judging the world in wrath. That wrath culminates at the end, but the end...

Did you think virgin was about physical non sexual lifestyle? I would think it is pure in spirit and not committing adultery with the world sort of thing myself. Just like the Bride before that. Believers are not sexually inactive just because we are the Bride of Christ! I daresay that being...

There is nothing normal about that last seven years. Jesus made that clear. It will be unlike any other time past or future. That depends if the seals are part of that last seven years. Looking at what happens in both the vials and trumpets and the seals, it is the same things. The vials are...

One third actually means one out of three. Says who? He is talking about people of Israel. He says two thirds will die. Then the third left believe. When the people left alive (all Israel at the time) are saved, that will be all Israel getting saved.