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  1. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    You got me thinking about this when you said someone told you those who believe in the trinity do not have the fruit of the spirit. For that to be true it would mean they don't have the spirit of God. SO I asked this to another guy on here... "Can the person who totally wiped out the Christ be...
  2. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    500 plain and clear Scriptures the Lord Jesus Christ is almighty God? You could not give me 1 that makes sense to me.
  3. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    I did not say anything in this question. I said what was told to me and then I'm asking a question which it seems you are either unwilling or unable to answer.
  4. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    I have a question. What does the Trinity belief do to the Christian? Someone who writes well on these forums told me he heard Trinity people do not have any fruit of the spirit. I personally have wondered if many of them are even born again. For example, can you receive the spirit of God if you...
  5. Peterlag

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    A study of the history of the Christian Church shows a definite development in the doctrine of the Trinity over the centuries. For example, the early form of the Apostles Creed (believed to date back to shortly after the time of the apostles themselves) does not mention the Trinity or the dual...
  6. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    I notice if I talk to 10 different Christian groups that I will get 10 different ideas about the same verse and all off them will say they are the one who is reading it in context and the others are not looking at it in context. This has proven to be the biggest reason that I have found why the...
  7. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    The benefit is that I don't have a relationship with some random guy the Father anointed to make my redemption possible. I have a relationship with God Himself in Christ. He not only created me, but lowered Himself in shame and died a cruel death that I might be delivered from my sin. Not some...
  8. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    I would enjoy if you could help me with a question I have. Others have called me a JW on here and you also are using the term. Can you tell me what a JW is?
  9. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I will just respond to one of your verses just to keep it short. John 8:58 "I AM" At the last super, the disciples were trying to find out who would deny the Christ. They said literally, "Not I am, Lord" Matthew 26:22, 25. No one would say the disciples were trying to deny they were God because...
  10. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Something that is openly admitted by theologians that is not known by many Christians is that the doctrine of the Trinity is not stated in the Bible, but is actually “built” by piecing together statements that are said to support it. Since most Christians believe the Trinity is a mystery and not...
  11. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Just how in the world could God empty Himself? How would I do that? Just totally forget who I was and then remember later? Drain my blood and then die and then put it back again and raise myself? Just how does anyone empty himself? Just how would a God do that?
  12. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Kind a like graduating from the class ha?
  13. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Oh I got a get in on this... Number one: For clarity’s sake, it's helpful to understand what the Trinity is. The orthodox doctrine of the Trinity is that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and the three of them are co-equal, co-eternal, and share the same essence and...
  14. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Exactly. And by the way I understand what you meant when you said in another post something about we were not called to be students. It made me think of what I once wrote years ago which is... I have become very aware that in the biblical field there is a vast difference between someone who has...
  15. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    So you agree that the evidence clearly reveals that "morphe" does not refer to Christ's inner essential being, but rather to an outward appearance? So again Jesus did not change his essential nature when he was with the men on the road to Emmaus. He simply had a different outward appearance.
  16. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Are you scholars and Bible fans ready to start talking about the things in heaven and on the earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities that were created for him? After Christ rose from the dead, he had authority in Heaven, on Earth, and under the Earth...
  17. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Is there a verse that says anyone goes right to hell when they die?
  18. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    It's a law and thank God for His laws.
  19. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    I do not know why we have so many Christians who believe the entire Bible is written directly to them, the Church of God. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate such thinking, and I would like to add nothing could be further from the truth. It's true the Word of God was written for everyone...