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  1. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I would enjoy your input on the new post I just put up in the Unorthodox Doctrine Forum asking... What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."
  2. Peterlag

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    It's important to note the context of the verse and why it's written and placed where it is. Reading the book of Colossians reveals that the Colossians Church had lost its focus on Christ. Some of the believers at Colosse had in practice forsaken their connection with the head who is Jesus...
  3. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    You can't be two of something at the same time.
  4. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    My take on Colossians 1:16 based on the context it's set in... When we read the word "create" we usually think about the original creation in Genesis, but there are other ways the word is used in Scripture. For example, Christians are "new creations" (2 Corinthians 5:17). After the...
  5. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    The Elephant in the room is so big that nobody else can fit in the room. We needed to be redeemed and it had to be a man.
  6. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Did you see my take on Colossians 1:16?
  7. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I must have missed something because I don't recall seeing a verse that tells the purpose why Jesus had to come to the earth as God.
  8. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    My take on Colossians 1:16 based on the context it's set in... When we read the word "create" we usually think about the original creation in Genesis, but there are other ways the word is used in Scripture. For example, Christians are "new creations" (2 Corinthians 5:17). After the...
  9. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    None of the dozens of descriptions, titles, or names of God are believed to be a separate, co-equal “Person” in a triune God except for the “HOLY SPIRIT” and there is no solid biblical reason to make the "Holy Spirit” into a separate “Person.” In other contexts the “HOLY SPIRIT” refers to the...
  10. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    My take on Colossians 1:16 based on the context it's set in... When we read the word "create" we usually think about the original creation in Genesis, but there are other ways the word is used in Scripture. For example, Christians are "new creations" (2 Corinthians 5:17). After the...
  11. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    May I know the difference between the spirit of God and the spirit of Christ?
  12. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    They had to get rid of the Christ and they could not drag him down so they pushed him up and made him God. They also had to get rid of the spirit of Christ. So they made the spirit God too which is why there is no person "holy spirit."
  13. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Great stuff from @Aunty Jane... According to my studies, God never said "I Am" was his name in Exodus 3:14. At Exodus 3:14-15, when Moses asked God for his name, from the Jewish Tanakh it reads.... "God said to Moses, "Ehyeh asher ehyeh (I will be what I will be)," and He said, "So shall you...
  14. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    More great data from @Aunity Jane... He never said "I am God", because Jesus never once called himself YHWH.....God has only one name (Psalm 83:18).... Jesus has many names, but the holy spirit has no name at all. Jesus never claimed equality with his God and Father. Jesus as "the Word"...
  15. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    @Aunty Jane writes... If the Jews had no trinity, and the Christians had no trinity until it was officially declared by the Catholic church in the 4th century, don’t you have to wonder where it came from? If it was formulated by the same church that brought you "Mary Mother of God" and...
  16. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I had to laugh when you penned... If the Jews had no trinity, and the Christians had no trinity until it was officially declared by the Catholic church in the 4th century, don’t you have to wonder where it came from? If it was formulated by the same church that brought you "Mary Mother of God"...
  17. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    How about this one... God became sin? God who new no sin became sin
  18. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    And the verse for that is where?
  19. Peterlag

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Let's talk about your free verse. God made Himself to be sin? Am I getting this correct? And that's your verse to show me WHY Jesus had to be God? So He could make Himself to be sin? God became sin?