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  1. Wormwood

    The Rapture: A Biblical Study

    Trek, Clearly you have some specifics that distinguish how you view the timing of the rapture and that is played out in your chronological view of Revelation. It's hard to point out the challenges I see in your view in a brief response. First, I would say that viewing Revelation...
  2. Wormwood

    The Rapture: A Biblical Study

    :) Thank you Tex. Trekson, In my opinion, 1 Thess. 5 makes it clear that the judgment of the wicked is on the same "day" and not some period of time after the rapture. Of all of the Second Coming passages in the Bible, I do not know of any that would suggest only one group is collected...
  3. Wormwood

    Submit oneself to the Pastor, Magesterium, Word, or ?

    Trekson, Do you have any texts to back your assertions and give specifics about who this bride is? I think whether the passage in Ephesians is metaphorical or not (which could be said also of the parables and images in Revelation), its clear that Paul views the church and Christ as the...
  4. Wormwood

    The Rapture: A Biblical Study

    Tex, While I agree with your disapproval of the rapture, I would disagree that the view is never taught. In fact, it seems to be heavily taught today in books, Bible commentaries, as well as in the classes and pulpits of many denominations. I think this is why the view is being spread so...
  5. Wormwood

    Submit oneself to the Pastor, Magesterium, Word, or ?

    I believe that if we truly place ourselves under the Word, then we must also put ourselves under the spiritual authority of our pastor/elders. I agree with sola scriptura in that we should not follow any leader who would guide people in a direction contrary to God's expressed commands...
  6. Wormwood

    Revelation

    Tex, Allow me to explain the book of Revelation to you in this brief post... I'm kidding. Huge volumes have been written on this so its very difficult to summarize. However, I will give a few thoughts on some of your points. I think Rev. 5 sets the stage for the entire book that is...
  7. Wormwood

    The Rapture: A Biblical Study

    S4C, I agree with most of what you have written here. However, I believe the resurrection spoken of in Rev 20 refers to being "raised with Christ" through faith. This is why those who experience the "first resurrection" have no fear of the "second death" or hell. Those who are raised with...
  8. Wormwood

    The Rapture: A Biblical Study

    Foreigner, Thank you for your honest questions. While I do not consider myself an authority on this subject, I will try to answer your questions about the Second Coming texts as I understand them. I do not deny that there are texts which suggest that suffering and turmoil will increase before...
  9. Wormwood

    The Rapture: A Biblical Study

    I agree HammerStone. Here's a reference to what you were talking about regarding the secret rapture.
  10. Wormwood

    The Rapture: A Biblical Study

    Thank you for the kind words Madad21. I am glad this post was a blessing and encouragement to you.
  11. Wormwood

    The Rapture: A Biblical Study

    This is how Tim LaHaye describes the “rapture” in his book, Left Behind. Maybe you have read about the rapture that describes the second coming of Jesus in a similar fashion. Namely, that people will suddenly disappear from all over the world. Cars will be left abandoned, planes will fall...
  12. Wormwood

    Where's the water?

    Sorry Forsakenone, I was trying to make sense of this comment. I was trying to address the underlined part of your quote, but I clearly misunderstood your intent.
  13. Wormwood

    Where's the water?

    I am not sure how this answers my question. I do not see how repentance and grace are in any way related to Darwinian evolution or how the texts you cited above could in any way be used to validate such a perspective biblically. It is utter nonsense.
  14. Wormwood

    Where's the water?

    Are you suggesting that Matthew 12:34 suggests we evolved from vipers and Matthew 7:6 that we evolved from dogs and pigs? I suggest you reread all of Ecclesiastes. I assure you that the authors point is not to defend Darwinian evolution.
  15. Wormwood

    Where's the water?

    I don't think this discussion is what Paul had in mind when he coined the phrase, "Fight the good fight." Nor is "gospel" the good news about man's ancestors being a "beast."
  16. Wormwood

    IITim.2:15, "Cutting the Word of Truth Straight"

    Ok. I was just addressing the conversation about 2 Peter as it relates to what Scripture refers to when it deals with "inspired Scriptures." Yes, we cannot assume when Paul spoke of his writings that he was including them as part of the Scriptures. But I think it is clear that he viewed them...
  17. Wormwood

    Where's the water?

    I would encourage you to go back and read the progression in context. My comment you quoted previously that brought this issue up was: So, I never said science cannot be used to understand past events. I was specifically referring to biblical narratives and events which relate to things that...
  18. Wormwood

    IITim.2:15, "Cutting the Word of Truth Straight"

    StanJ, Perhaps the word that needs more clarification is λοιπὰς. This word means "other, the rest of, pertaining to part of the whole." So when Peter speaks of the "other Scriptures" he is clearly implying that Paul's writings plus other sacred writings make up the whole. Apart from Paul's...
  19. Wormwood

    Where's the water?

    Hey Tex, I do not think your analogies are very true to the idea that sin is "nothing." A broken down house doesn't work because the stuff is broken. Its not the lack of stuff, but the stuff that is there that is flawed or unusable. It has to be fixed or replaced. I think this concept...