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  1. Wormwood

    Where's the water?

    SL, HammerStone probably knows more about this concept than I do, but the concept has to do with implications about the role of literature over and above the author's actual intent. For instance, the story of the flood by some would be seen not simply as a literal depicting of specific events...
  2. Wormwood

    Where's the water?

    I'm just trying to understand your position. You seem to want to discount a universal flood in order to "give credence to science." Am I mistaken here? My point is simply that one cannot be a Christian if their primary goal is to give credence to science as it does not allow for divine...
  3. Wormwood

    Where's the water?

    Are you saying you dismiss the biblical account of the resurrection? Clearly it does not square with science. No one is saying "read the Bible as we do." I am saying that we strive to understand the authors intended meaning. Can you show me how any of the authors could have intended the...
  4. Wormwood

    Defending the Trinity

    Nothead, Are you still at this? I think this is an obsession for you. Perhaps you keep continually pounding this drum to convince yourself?
  5. Wormwood

    Where's the water?

    aspen, I must say I find your argument very unconvincing. It seems you are far more swayed by the scientific community on this issue than you are the actual teaching of the Bible. I find this to be a dangerous road to walk down. The Scriptures speak of divine, miraculous intervention into...
  6. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

    No, I think this way because I have been reading your posts for a long time now. It has little to do with your disagreement with me. Your examples are often cultural and point to large Christian groups and point out errors and excesses...never correct approaches. Clearly this is not just a...
  7. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

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    Gay Marriage

  9. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

    Well I find it somewhat demeaning that you would suggest I cannot see your intent behind your questions. They do not seem like genuine questions to me as you clearly have your mind quite settled on the issue. I don't find this type of rhetoric to be constructive for the church. In my opinion...
  10. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

  11. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

    I believe I have answered this question before. We all have predispositions toward sin and temptations. It is how we act or refuse to act on those desires or impulses that makes the difference. I am attracted to women who are not my wife. Does this mean I can meditate on lustful thoughts...
  12. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

  13. Wormwood

    Defending Amillennialism

    Cooter, Thanks for your response. I agree. It is quite clear that John uses past events to highlight the nature of the current situation of the Church and the Second Coming. Clearly, John plays off of numerous OT situations to reveal what God is doing in the present. Terms like Babylon...
  14. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

    Jesus told his disciples that marriage was to be with one man and one woman for all of their lives. This shocked the disciples and they said it would be better not to get married. Jesus responded that those who can embrace it should, while others are eunuchs for the kingdom. River, the point...
  15. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

    My response would be something like, "I understand what you are saying. However, I want you to see that "who you are" is a person who has been hand-crafted by a God who loves them. Who you are is far more than your desires or attractions. You were made for God. All I know is if you will give...
  16. Wormwood

    Behold the Man

    I appreciate your post HS. I think it is well stated.
  17. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

    Well, not sure I wholly agree on that. What if my "innermost feelings" cause me to want to go to clubs and have one night stands every night of the week? I would hope a Christian friend would direct me away from that sort of lifestyle. To suggest that their disapproval of my lifestyle would...
  18. Wormwood

    Behold the Man

    DP, 1. Nothing in my post suggests that suffering is godliness. Where are you getting this? I said God understands our sufferings. We have a great High Priest who is able to identify with us in every way, yet was without sin. That was the point. 2. All of God's promises are "yes" to us...
  19. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

    Well, in my mind, these are two separate issues. One has to do with how Christians interact with homosexuals on an individual level and another has to do with our response to the legal and cultural trajectory of our nation. Issue #1: I think the idea of Christians are sitting down with...
  20. Wormwood

    Gay Marriage

    Well of course. I agree with most of what you are saying here. However, I find many Christians are at a place today where they are more concerned promoting people's "rights" to do whatever they want than they are expressing grief over some of the ways people choose to live. I understand your...