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  1. Retrobyter

    "As" a thief

    Shalom, Trekson. Did you know that there’s an alternative view of Revelation 16:15? It’s really quite eloquent: Have you ever wondered why verse 15 is placed where it is in Revelation? Look at the context: Revelation 16:12-16 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river...
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    The Coming Asteroid Impact in the Atlantic Ocean

    Shalom, Eric. Well, believe what you will. I think you would be hard pressed to find Scriptural support for what you are claiming. That’s all.
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    The Coming Asteroid Impact in the Atlantic Ocean

    Shabbat shalom, Eric. Why can’t it be the MEDITERRANEAN Sea, a sea with which the Jews were familiar as the “hinder sea?" The Roman Empire SURROUNDED the Mediterranean Sea! Tarshish probably was just west of the Straits of Gibraltar in what is now Spain, but Sh’va (Sheba) and D’dan (Dedan)...
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    Heaven

    Shalom, Marcus. Let’s go back for a moment: Kata Iooanneen 3:13 13 Kai oudeis anabebeeken eis ton ouranon ei mee ho ek tou ouranou katabas, ho Huios tou anthroopou. The Greek New Testament (UBS) Thus, Yochanan (John) is NOT relating ANY message about “heaven”; he is talking about how Yeshua`...
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    Heaven

    Shalom, Marcus. No, that's not right. As Trekson just said, there is NO "going to heaven." One can go "THROUGH the heaven" to somewhere else on earth, but there's no "Heaven" to go to! The "third heaven," as Peter describes in 2 Peter 3:13, is a FUTURE atmosphere around the third earth! Now...
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    Why I believe in the Harpazo

    Shalom, guys. It's not possible to disagree with the "harpazo." It's simply the Greek word that is used in several Scripture verses, particularly in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 that is used by those who believe in the pretribulational rapture theory. We MUST agree with a "harpazo," although the...
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    The Problem with Dispensationalism

    Shalom, sojourner4Christ. A "no-brainer?" If you say so! But, may I suggest that a LITTLE usage of the brain is a good thing.
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    The Problem with Dispensationalism

    Shalom, Trekson. Killed a big one, haven't we? Ever hear of a "straw man hypothesis?" You said, "I really have to disagree with your conclusions! We DO NOT become Jews and we do not become Israel. Want proof? Gal. 3:28-29 – 'There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free...
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    The Problem with Dispensationalism

    Shalom, Trekson. You said, "So many questions about something most children learn in Sunday School. There is more than one definition of the word 'church.' Are you like this at work? Every time a co-worker makes a comment, do you reply, 'Well that’s really not how the term was used in ancient...
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    TheGreat Day of the Lord is Near

    Shalom, keras. I agree! It's called a "war tribunal!" Yeshua` SHALL judge and punish the nations that mistreated His people, both the children of Isra'el and the adopted children commonly called "Christians." That's what the judgment of the sheep and the goats is all about. Those nations who...
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    TheGreat Day of the Lord is Near

    Shabbat shalom, keras. Okay, don't misquote the Bible, and I won't accuse you of it. Fair enough? Now, regarding Isaiah 30:26, it HASN'T happened, yet! I didn't say that EVERYTHING you quoted was ALREADY fulfilled. I was cautioning against taking EVERYTHING you quoted as NEEDING TO BE...
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    TheGreat Day of the Lord is Near

    Shabbat shalom, keras. Fooey! History IS preserved so that we might LEARN from history! One can learn in one of two basic ways: one can forge ahead blindly and suffer first-hand the consequences, OR one can take someone else's experiences and learn from them, avoiding making the same mistakes...
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    The Day of Trumpets and Alarms

    Shalom, keras. My bad! I should have pointed out which ones were already fulfilled! Okay, here you go: Jeremiah 4:23-29 is NOT about the future. It was about Isra'el's PAST when Nebuchadnezzar came from Babylon and conquered them and took them prisoner to Babylon. Note its context: Jeremiah...
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    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shalom, Michael. Okay, and I agree with the point you were trying to make here, too. I just like to think of myself as someone who has grown in a slightly different direction. I'm not any more intelligent than others. Indeed, I've had to really work to keep up with some of the people on this...
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    Zion, the Promised Land

    Shalom, Jack. Hope you're doing well. How could I have let this slip? It's been a couple of months now, but I need to address this for you. Obviously, the reference to the "movement ... to give up Christianity and to go back to their former Judaism" is that which is commonly called...
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    The Day of Trumpets and Alarms

    Shalom, keras. Not so, brother. You just have to be using the verses that have NOT been already fulfilled! Sorry to say it, but you can't just use all the verses that SEEM like they're saying the same thing! You've gotta DIG a little and confirm each case! Many prophecies are SPECIFIC and have...
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    Israel will be Darkened

    Shalom, Eric. And, YOU need to understand that Isaiah 13:9-14, being a part of Isaiah 13:1-22, is NOT about the end times! It was about the judgment on Babylon (Bavel) during ISAIAH'S time! There's more than one "Day of the LORD." The "Day of the LORD" occurred and will occur each time that God...
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    The Problem with Dispensationalism

    Shalom, Trekson. Just a quick answer: "What gives?" We are Messianic Jews because we ARE from the tribe of Y'hudah through the blood of the Messiah, Yeshua` of Natsaret, the son of Daviyd, the son of Yishai, the son of `Oved, the son of Bo`az, the son of Salmon, the son of Nachshon, the son of...
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    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shalom, Trekson (and groupie, Marcus O'Reillius): I'm going to try to finish this answer to post #59: Your words: “Ok Retro, You need to come to grips with this thought. There is a reason why Paul doesn’t quote the whole passage in context and that’s because the context DOESN’T MATTER! What...
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    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shalom, Michael. LOL! Then I take it that JM has never seen Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ?" Wasn't that R rated? (I KNOW it was! I'm holding my copy of the movie right now!) I agree with you that one can "trust the Ruach haQodesh, the Holy Spirit" for understanding; HOWEVER, don't...