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  1. Retrobyter

    The Problem with Dispensationalism

    Shalom, Trekson. Yada, yada, yada,.... First, DEFINE "CHURCH!" You THINK you know, but you haven't got a CLUE! For instance, many speak about "the Church" with a capital "C," but that "entity" is merely an extension of the UNIVERSAL ROMAN "Church!" The ROMAN CATHOLIC Church! (The term...
  2. Retrobyter

    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shabbat shalom, sojourner4Christ. You've added nothing new and you still don't know what you're talking about. Try again after you've given it some real thought.
  3. Retrobyter

    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shabbat shalom, sojourner4Christ. You're simply getting the cart before the horse. Here's what the Random House Webster's English Dictionary has to say about the etymology of "inspire": in-spire, v., -spired, -spir-ing. ... [1300-50; ME < L inspirare: to breathe upon or into = in- IN + spirare...
  4. Retrobyter

    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shalom, Trekson. Sorry for the delay. Lost my first attempt to answer this post. This is a second attempt to answer post #59. You said, "Hi Retro, Man, you’re making me do my homework on this one but unfortunately, the more I research, the more I see you’re looking at things the wrong way...
  5. Retrobyter

    The Day of Trumpets and Alarms

    Shabbat shalom, keras. Just a thought: Is that the FIRST half of the "night" on the 25th or the SECOND half of the "night?" Just as in weather reports, NASA reports on the 24-hour midnight-to-midnight cycle for a "24-hour day." In a weather report, most of the time that one will be given the...
  6. Retrobyter

    The Day of Trumpets and Alarms

    Shalom, keras. I don't believe that you are that far from the truth. However, it would be more convincing if you knew the names of these countries better. "Aram" is that country which today is called "Syria." It's the name from which we get the "Aramaic language." As a go-between country...
  7. Retrobyter

    Pre Tribulation rapture

    Shalom, Marcus. <Sigh...> Nor was I talking about Creation or unique events when I quoted those verses! I was talking about the wonderful imagination of human beings and how easily they embellish what God's Word said, regardless how well they write a book! As far as the "gap of 2000 years in...
  8. Retrobyter

    Transcendence: the ultimate in hubris or dark prophecy?

    Shalom, Michael. I saw the Noah movie. A lot of it was based on the Book of Enoch as well as Genesis. The Book of Enoch said that there were 200 watchers (fallen angels) and even names the 20 "leaders of ten!" It also equates the four living beings (beasts in Revelation) to the four main...
  9. Retrobyter

    The Obedience of the Pre-Tribber

    Shalom, rockytopva. One doesn't have to be a pre-tribber to anticipate our Lord's return! We are ALL told to watch with anticipation, guard against lethargy, and to stay awake!
  10. Retrobyter

    Pre Tribulation rapture

    Shalom, Marcus. No, it's not surprising. That's why I believe you simply to be a nay-sayer. It's not uncommon, however. Regarding "A New Look at an Old Earth," I would simply re-direct you to these verses: Ecclesiastes 1:9-10 9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that...
  11. Retrobyter

    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shalom, Trekson. This is in response to Post #57. Sorry, bro', but we HAVE to sort all this out before we can hope to continue. We're no longer on the same page. First of all, "salvation" is the WRONG WORD!!! It's not "salvation" that refers to being "born again!" It's "JUSTIFICATION" that...
  12. Retrobyter

    time line God talking to Israelite's up to today

    Shalom, tooldtocare. I pity a person who is so duped by the propaganda and ploys of terrorists like Hamas and their sympathizers. Snipers have no time to shoot at children; they're too busy trying to find and snipe the REAL culprits of this war, the Hamas leaders HIDING BEHIND THOSE CHILDREN...
  13. Retrobyter

    Pre Tribulation rapture

    Shalom, Marcus. Y'know, we could all do without all the nay-saying for nay-saying's sake! I was simply telling Azadok that there is NO BIBLICAL OR HEBREW REASON for suggesting that there was a PRE-Creation creation! That's NOT what Genesis 1:1-2 is implying! To the contrary, it is quite typical...
  14. Retrobyter

    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shalom, Trekson. This is a response to post #52: I was going to answer the whole thing (24 pages worth), but I decided just answering the last point and the most important point would do for now: Regarding Romans 11, you said, "This is where I believe you get it wrong. The tree is only a...
  15. Retrobyter

    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shalom, Trekson. On these points, I will VEHEMENTLY disagree! These are "game-changers!" First of all, Isra'el was DEFINITELY looking forward to the Messiah as the One who would bruise the serpent's head although it would cost Him a bruised heel! He was "telegraphed" in the prophecies since the...
  16. Retrobyter

    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shalom, Trekson. Okay, here we go. First, I'm not going to fight you about the "resuscitation" interpretation of Mark 5. Just know this: If the Messiah Yeshua` wasn't there, where would the girl have been? If NOT dead, she would have been dead in reality soon enough. No one else could have...
  17. Retrobyter

    Israel will be Darkened

    Shalom, Eric. No, He won't! There's NO SUCH THING as a "permanent solar eclipse!" Yesha`yahu (Isaiah) is not talking about that! He is talking about an OVERCAST SKY when that PARTICULAR "day of the LORD" came. You need to look at the WHOLE prophecy! Consider just expanding the view to that of...
  18. Retrobyter

    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shalom, Marcus. Sorry, bro', but my arguments frequently REQUIRE a re-read of the Scriptures that many feel they already "know," but may have missed some points within those Scriptures. Lengthy, yes, but consider how much of what I write is actually my own words. Not that much. There's nothing...
  19. Retrobyter

    Pre Tribulation rapture

    Shalom, Azadok and all. You don't know what you're talking about because you DON'T know Hebrew! This is the old, tired, worn-out "gap theory," the thought that there is a "gap" between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. No such "gap" occurred! The first thing one needs to understand about Hebrew is that...
  20. Retrobyter

    How can the rapture be anything but pre-trib???

    Shalom, again, Trekson. You said, "I do not believe that Christ's sacrifice was retroactive." How could it NOT be?! "For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins," said the author of Hebrews (Hebrews 10:4). How could they look forward to the death of the...