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  1. Naomi25

    When Is Flesh Man Judged To Perish?

    While I agree that Dispensationalists need to do less opinion and more biblical proof, and that the bible talks of a single event that combines the Rapture and the judgement, I cannot agree with your other points. The bible does, indeed indicate an eternal torment of souls who deny Christ. I...
  2. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    It's true, I am lousy at maths, I confess. Happily this is not a matter of maths, but exegesis. Sticking your tongue out at me and going "you suck at maths" isn't going to help anything that I can see...can you?
  3. Naomi25

    Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    I think Romans 9-11 is pivitol in discussing the relationship between the Church/Israel/Christ, true, although I am not sure I quite agree with your outcomes entirely. My biggest question, I suppose, from your OP, is your starting premise that there is two separate promises to spiritual Israel...
  4. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    Perhaps it is elementary. Perhaps that's why I'm bumping up against all these things that don't add up. But if that's the case, then isn't it your job to answer my questions, rather than dismissing them and simply saying they "don't hold water"? Because simply saying that my objections don't...
  5. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    Wait...did you mean to say "literalism AND figurative"? "Literalism vs figurative?" Or did you say what you mean? Because if that is not a typo, then colour me boggled...and a little giggly, you know...with the irony. Of the grammer...in that sentence. Or lack of it. No one is trying to refute...
  6. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    Ok, first, I am hardly some little duckling making up phrases to toss at you. That phrase has been used by many theologians who have probably spent more years reading and studying than I've been alive. Just because you've never heard it used, or don't like how it's being used, doesn't change...
  7. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    I do figurative when the bible calls me to do figurative. Other than that I take it all very literally. And even the text I take figuratively, I still hold to be teaching a very important spiritual truth that is pointing to something essential, not just pie in the sky that sounds nice and woo...
  8. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    @CoreIssue ...continued His master said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.' - Matthew 25:21 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to...
  9. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    Say what? Now you’re not even making sense within your own end times system. Don’t Dispensationalists say that the “Saints” we see all throughout Revelation are Christians? Just not “Church” Christians. Which, of course, makes zero sense. A person saved by the blood of Christ is a Christian. A...
  10. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    Yes, Paul does distinguish them, so that we may tell the difference between those saved, those unsaved gentiles and those unsaved Jews... However, when it then comes to salvation, these distinctions break down completely according to the NT. To be saved, all must come to Christ, no exceptions...
  11. Naomi25

    PROPHECY UPDATE: Last Days Warnings.

    “As the world reels from the latest Middle Eastern Crisis”!!!!!! Ah, what crisis? I’m not necessarily saying there’s not one. But if there is, it’s sort of slotted together with all the other horrible, ongoing sludge that comes out of that area, so you’ll need to forgive me for not knowing what...
  12. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    Hi! Could you explain this a bit more, please? Give no offense to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God, - 1 Corinthians 10:32 I’m not exactly sure how this is key to understanding dispensations. Thanks.
  13. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    What’s not to understand? You asked me how “I could say Revelation was not for ‘us’”. And I replied that I wasn’t saying that at all. I had never said that. I was saying that that’s what Dispensationals are saying. And then I went on to explain why and how I think that’s what they are doing...
  14. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    That’s interesting, because in a way, it seems Dispensationalists make it just that. They insist that Revelation, the Olivet Discourse and the other prominent end time passages are speaking to this very generation...to them! They dismiss what the disciples would have gotten from Jesus in Matt...
  15. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    I’m not saying it’s not for us, I’m saying that’s fundamentally what Dispensationalists do. If you teach that the book is only about the last 7 years, which you also say is relevant to Israel primarily, then what possible benefit does the church of today get from reading it, other than some sort...
  16. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    Mmmm. See, I’m with you on the various beasts and Kingdoms leading up to Rome. But that’s where we part, I’m afraid. Revelation most certainly draws its imagery from the OT, which means Daniel as well. But when you start saying that Revelation is only for the last generation, the one that goes...
  17. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    Maybe, maybe not. Doesn’t the beasts in Daniel list the Kingdom leading up to the Roman Empire, which was in Christ’s time. And, as a futurist, don’t you see Revelation as still in the future? I’m not a futurist, so I read Revelation as spanning the time period in between Christ’s first and...
  18. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    This is both a very interesting and very complex subject. In one regard I agree with you...especially when talking about the first beast, or what most recognise as the Antichrist. There is most certainly a spiritual reality behind the sense of Antichrist, with John telling us that these people...
  19. Naomi25

    Possible antichrist candidate: Emmanuel Macron of France

    I haven’t taken the time to dig into any of his work to form an opinion whether he’s right or not in regards to his “Islamic” slant on things. I find it interesting because Islam is clearly a massive influence on earth, one I suspect Satan draws much satisfaction in. So...there might be...
  20. Naomi25

    The Criteria of Antichrist.

    That depends on why Christ said he was “Lord” of the Sabbath, don’t you think? The context of it? If he was only declaring himself master over it, which, sure, is true...then yeah...we would definitely say that Christ was in point of fact naming the Sabbath the Lords Day, after himself. The...