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I'm asking him how IN HIS VERSION OF PREDESTINATION he works these things out. This is, I guess, a more one-on-one thread, because people have their own views of "predestined".

LOL thanks... you know that is like blood in the water for a shark... it will start a frenzy, no matter what

Let's try not to get out too far on this tangent--Synergists will start jumping in to fight this fight, and the Topic will be lost.

This is just like the other issue (falling away from the faith in Paul's writings)--we've put our views out there, now we have to let it go--except in this case we're discussing literally a tangent. You think I'm missing it, I think you're missing it. Neither is budging. Same situation as before.

That's what we've been doing on the issue--that's how I can tell you don't. You treat God's "marriage" to Israel atomistically, as if it's not part of a larger reality, as if it stands on its own, as of it's its own institution, as if it's unique and we should all bow in reverence at its...

Monergist "types" basically affirm "doctrines of grace", Synergists don't.

I can make observations. Not one Monergist type has fought me on answering the OP, but plenty of Synergist types have come in with guns blazing, falsely accusing me of holding to a view that they then war against. The reason why I highlight it is I want to show Synergists how ridiculous they...

There was a lot less fighting than usual, bc this is meant to SOLICIT OPINIONS, so, every time Synergist types came in with guns blazing, defensively accusing me and arguing against arguments I never made, I tried to clarify I wasn't asserting anything, just asking what everyone thought...

I always wondered why Jesus told Nathanael that He'd seen him under the Fig tree before. I think there's more to it, probably, but, as I was reading this past week, I realized it's possible that it's there to, basically, serve as an instance of Christ knowing us before hand and choosing us (so...

See, only Monergist types answer this question easily lol Thank you.

Actually, that (ie, "What God was, the Word was") was a massive concession on his part--and that translation has even been lauded by Unitarians. In that verse, His identity does not rely on Him being a representative to humans, since He hadn't created humans at that point--His identity had to...

As I said, the statement "it is a divine mystery" doesn't suffice anywhere else (and, as you confirmed, you would not, and do not, use that as an answer on other Biblical topics), therefore it doesn't suffice here. You want to pretend there is some "imprecision" in that--that is called...

You mean that you want to find a way to excuse yourself from the discussion, because you know you can't defend your position? That's fine. You don't have to pretend someone is being "imprecise". LOL That's called "false witness", which is against God's Law.

@Aunty Jane Also, Moses, a foreshadow of Christ, the prophet "like Moses", was told, "You will be as God, and Aaron will be your prophet". (Christ even uses the same phrase about Himself that was used of Moses--"the people believed in God, and believed in Moses", and Christ said, "Believe in...

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I think the "fairest" interpretation of that verse, confirmed by the (trinitarian!) theologian Daniel B. Wallace, has been "What God was, the Word was". This does not add or remove from the "equality with God" doctrine, yet it does not go so far as to explicitly import or assert "the Word was...

I'm not sure how it could be any clearer: the statement "it is a divine mystery" doesn't suffice anywhere else (and, as you confirmed, you would not, and do not, use that as an answer on other Biblical topics), therefore it doesn't suffice here.

Right, so, as stated, it does not suffice here.

I'm aware there are arguments for both sides, and I don't think I've seen a complete and total resolution.

If any difficulty in Scripture can just be swept or waved away with the statement, "it is a divine mystery", then why have any discussion at all? Why not just be satisfied with "it is a divine mystery" in every case? If you cannot and do not do that with other issues, it is not to be done in...