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Isn't that nice: you believe in the Rapture, the gathering up of all those who are still alive and remain after the Great Tribulation decimates the Elect. Why is it that Jesus said we would be handed over for persecution? Why is it that Jesus said we would have Great Tribulation? Why does Jesus...

I don't mind that you have a different opinion, but your style of argument is really kind of down and nasty. You were the one who said Paul wrote Hebrews... and that's not true. So in this case, it's just time to say, 'Hey, I was wrong.' But unable to do that, you just have become very...

I'm sorry for you, but we have a fundamental difference in our view. I take a literal view of being "caught up," "in the air," to meet Jesus without having died. The First Resurrection (before the Millennium) is only for the Living (righteous) and it includes many parts, the Rapture, for...

I added color to the verse I quoted in Hebrews 9. I've sourced Scripture. You sourced Scripture too, but even with a plethora of verses, you still proved your point. Either Enoch has never died and the "all" of verse 13 allows that exception - because the author inserted that clause when...

1. The first paragraph is from my study of the ancient culture surrounding Jesus' time. It is historically accurate and predates our view of warfare on how it would be conducted. 2. The second paragraph is my commentary, as is the first paragraph you quoted. The whole post is one 'paper'...

First of all, I will call your credibility into question when you make a statement that "Paul" wrote Hebrews. We really don't know who wrote Hebrews. Those that do claim they know are speaking with conviction that which they cannot know, and so no matter with which what fervor they bring to...

Revelation 7:9-17 is in the middle of the broad overview parallel account within the book of Revelation, chapters 4-11 (exclusive of 11:1-13). It starts with John being called "up" in 4:1. After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven, and the first voice which I had...

Coming for His Bride Another analogy to the Resurrection/Rapture which conforms to a sequence of events analysis is the Israel first-century wedding ritual. Like the festivals and the harvest, the joining of husband and wife has distinct eschatological overtones for Jesus’ return. While there...

No, you lied. You said I hadn't provided any support for my stance when I had indeed provided the context of John 3 in building my refutation of your assertion. I not only did so again, but provided a commentary which raises the central point of Jesus' assertion to Nicodemus which is not...

I have already supported my stance with the Bible. What you allege is not true; another way of saying it is that you are misconstruing what I have already posted as a way of dismissing my argument refuting the notion you wish to impose upon this board. To be blunt: you're lying about what I...

Being caught up to the clouds is not a lie; it's IN the Bible.

It's a false argument to say anyone is shirking their duty to be faithful, endure patiently, and remain steadfast if they look forward to being caught up with Jesus in the clouds. Keras, you do not remain un-refuted when I refute you. That statement is not logical. You are only...

Wrong. The point was no had gone to Heaven and came back to tell Nicodemus what he wanted to know. Jesus is the only one to have done both. Jesus is not making a categorical statement that no one EVER goes to Heaven. He was not addressing where we go when we die. Context, context, context...

Anytime someone tells me something is "clear," or in this case, "clearer;" I know it is not a clear-cut case of explicit wording in the Bible, but rather their own conclusion. John 3:13 is not about people's ultimate home in Heaven... context; context; context.

The Resurrection of the Dead (in Christ) is a selective calling from Paradise, Abraham's bosom, of the Elect who have passed away (without being martyred) prior to the Day of The Lord. It comes first. The Rapture (catching up from the Greek) is for all those who are still alive and remain...

I wasn't really all that motivated to answer your "inquiry" because of its adversarial nature, but I will do so now. First of all, it is not speculation, but discussion. Jesus uses a very specific verb for the cutting off of the Great Tribulation, and it be hooves us to listen to what our Lord...

Very good, now combine 1Pe 3:22 with John 14:2-3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. That combines both the Rapture for those who are still alive and remain on the Earth after the Great Tribulation with their...

You are a very funny person. You "know" what I can see! (And I thought only God could do that!) So what you presented, I use for the Millennial with the ingathering of the Remnant Jews and the Meek. And I have a holistic formulation based on the Sequence of Events in the Bible for what...

So you throw Pre-Millennialism, Post-Millennialism, and Amillennialism out: what are you besides being objectionable? A Preterist?

And no wonder you can't "see" the Rapture if you look where it is not found! 1Th 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with...