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Well...I think if we look through scripture the word is actually used in a few different ways. For the unsaved it is used in a condemned sort of way. For the saved it is used in a few different ways. It seems to be used as a way to point sin out in others, as you pointed out, but also of the...

I don't anticipate "The Rapture" in the same sense you do (although am quite happy to be proved wrong on my way up!). But my belief has a single return of Christ that nevertheless will see all Christians being called up to meet him in the clouds and given their new bodies at that same moment in...

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Well...there is quite a difference between convict and condemn...that's why they're different words! To be made sure of something is different to be judged guilty of something, wouldn't you say? I have to disagree here. Satan is involved in condemnation, not conviction. When we feel guilty...

Well...I want to perhaps qualify that. Yes, they might be internal operations, but they are not done all by ourselves. The work of the Spirit is heavily involved in conviction. One could argue that without the Spirit one cannot be alive and awake enough to be convicted at all, and thus it has...

Okay...this is again, supposing that Rev is to be read chronologically. But let's say it is. Does it say in Rev 13 that all Saints are martyred? It says many will be, and calls for endurance...but it doesn't give us leave to assume all believers perish. In fact, in Ch 14 they are told to endure...

I'm afraid I miss most of your point. Are you saying that scripture is only relevant to individual interpretation? Because if you are, I'd have to disagree...strongly. It's true that everyone must apply scripture to themselves individually, but as creatures under the creator, we all must allow...

No, I didn't, but I suppose I can see how the word (I'm assuming here that the word we're talking about is "convicted") could mean something other than what I used it for. I used it for being more sure...certain...being felt led in my understanding by God...that sort of thing. However...

Where in scripture does it imply that all "Tribulation Saints" will be martyred before the second Coming? In fact, I would say that there are verses that suggest otherwise: [21] For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and...

Thanks, but no...not really. I've collected a bit of info along the way, but too often I feel like I've got more questions than answers. Some weeks I feel like I've landed solidly on one view of end time events...then something will happen, or someone will raise a point, and that will have me...

Hey! Mark this day...we agree!

The Marriage Supper of the Lamb really only appears in Revelation. There are multiple references to the Church being the Bride, of course, and also references to a great wedding feast in many of Christ's parables. But specifically, the Supper, like the Millennium, we see only briefly. So it's a...

Well...this is supposing that Revelation is properly read in order from beginning to end, rather than a series of repeating visions. There is some debate on that today, with good points and strong arguments on both side. However...I still don't find this argument compelling. Because at some...

Well...that's where I am at the moment. To me, the plain reading of all the passages put Christ's return at a single event, and all the other "happenings" that go on at his return, happen at that one time. Be that judgement on the wicked, new bodies for the saints, renewing of the earth and...

This is exactly how I think as well! Not "essential" enough to cause rifts...but important enough to dig into the truth of the matter! Plus...it's just plain exciting to think of our Lord coming back.

I understand this is how you, and others like you see this...and please understand...I'm not planting my flag on a hill and saying I believe you are definitely wrong. Indeed, you may be right in this matter. I do hold a different opinion, but am open to lean should the Spirit guide me. My point...

Hi! Our Church has just started going through Revelation, which is interesting, I think. People in the Church speak of Christ's return, of course, but not with the detail that would narrow down point of view, so to speak. Which...you know...is disappointing. However...while I could stand to...

No...I don't really mean insulting. I just mean that sometimes speaking truth, standing firm and truly loving someone "God's way", will mean that they don't get the "warm fuzzies"...if you get my meaning. Does that mean you are being mean or insulting? Not intentionally, no. It means that you...

I've only just seen this, and I'm afraid I don't have the time at the moment to read through the thread, sadly. I'm up to my eyeballs in finishing a craft project for the kids club our church is having these holidays...I'm on a deadline! But...very quickly...when it comes down to it, I'd say in...

Agreed! It is impossible to know how we'll "go out"...but I think the premise of the thread is to assume we will be able to...in other words...what we should like to say when we are uttering our last breath. Which is also hard to know, because we might be feeling differently at the end there. As...