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  1. J

    Should I be rebaptised?

    I am an active and practicing member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for over 30 years. I am extremely well versed in the doctrine therein, as you are with your Catholic faith. As I explained before, this quote is emphasizing that the Father, Son, and Spirit are three...
  2. J

    Should I be rebaptised?

    This quote is referring to the Father, Son and Spirit being three different persons-- aka personage or little 'g' gods (which is a divine person). They are united as one God (big G). Like the Athanasian Trinity, it is monotheism, that's often misunderstood (like the Athanasian Trinity)...
  3. J

    The Difference

    But Christians are not the only people that believe God came and dwelt among men. Again, I'm REALLY not wanting to be a rain cloud here. I'm just also trying to be factually truthful.
  4. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    God is LOVE. True love does not enslave or force! True love much be freely given! God is not God without true love, which requires each person to choose. A slaver can never be God. As to playing scriptural BB-guns, here's how that will go: I cite "For God so loved the world..." and then...
  5. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    When God sets a person free- He sets them free. They are slaves NO more. The can stay and love Christ, or they can jump back in the pig pen and worship sin. God so loved the world, that He frees every single person-- so that they have a choice whether to stay with Him or not. He does not...
  6. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    True love is not forced. When you love someone, you give them the choice to be with you or not. Bob doesn't have the choice to be with/love God or not, and neither does Mike. There is no real love here, only force.
  7. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Recaping this: Bob the athiest did nothing wrong. He was just born in a horrible situation with zero way out. God never forces himself on Bob, therefore Bob dies an atheist and burns in Hell for... having bad luck? Meanwhile, Mike also doesn't have any freewill either. God did force himself...
  8. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    If you tell me that you believe Bob has the choice to accept or decline Christ's gift, then I will understand that you do believe will exist as does freedom. I"ve met other Calvinists who just flat out deny any real freedom or will anywhere at anytime, so admittedly I'm a little skeptical here.
  9. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Can he then choose to also decline Christ/His gift and go back to willfully sinning?
  10. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    So Bob does have a will now? Can Bob choose to accept Christ?
  11. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    How is will-less Bob supposed to be culpable of any of this? All you're doing is condemning him the crime of being born. Are you likewise going to condemn him for having a Y chromosone and being unable to change that?
  12. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    How is Bob supposed to be culpable for being born into a state that he had no control of and has no way to get out of? Shall he likewise be condemned of being born with two hands and unable to grow a third one? Or being unable to excise the Y chromosome from his DNA? I will address you...
  13. J

    The Difference

    Christians are not the only group that believes God came and dwelt among men in humble circumstances. Baha'i for example, believe that God has down so on multiple occasions. Now I'm not saying that I agree with Baha'i beliefs (obviously I don't), but just like I must factually acknowledge...
  14. J

    The Difference

    Let's run with a Santa Claus example: Matt, who's 4 years old, believes Santa is real and literally climbs down his chimney every Christmas Eve with presents. It is a fact that Matt believes in Santa. Correct? Note: I am *not* saying that it is a fact that himself Santa is real. I'm...
  15. J

    The Difference

    Running with an example: Fact: A Hindu believes in reincarnation (obviously). Fact: I don't believe in reincarnation (obviously). To be truthful and factual, I must acknowledge that a Hindu person believes in reincarnation. That doesn't mean I believe that recreation itself is a fact (cause...
  16. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Please post the exact quote where somebody said "I believe that I save myself through my own choices and I am my own savior", and then we can talk about it. I haven't seen anyone post such a thing. The Arminian position of "I accepted my Savior's gift" does not equate to "I save myself". Then...
  17. J

    John 13:35

    ROLLO!!!!! Hi friend, how have you been?
  18. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Again, more personal insults rather than actually talking about beleifs! As to my beliefs, I have offered repeatedly to explain things to you if you are interested. Every time you have not respond to my offer, which I understand to be a "no" and hence i respected your choice. I have explained...
  19. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Rather than stooping to personal insults, would you care to answer the logical question about your beliefs I posted in #711?
  20. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    You said that Calvinist beliefs were completely logical. Therefore, answering a logical question should be easy. How is Bob supposed to be culpable for being born into a state that he had no control of and has no way to get out of? Shall he likewise be condemned of being born with two hands...