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HiddenManna, This is not a case for Calvinism. I agree that people are born depraved and in bondage to sin. It is only by grace that a person has the choice to respond to God's goodness, but this grace is not "irresistible." I do not believe in double predestination where God arbitrarily...

1. You cannot honestly say that for 1600 years, people had no inspired NT. 2. You cannot honestly say that the English language holds the only inspired Bible version. 3. You cannot honestly say that the 200 year old Greek texts that were used to translate the KJV were more reliable than...

Huh? Um, you know, the Gospel, message of Jesus, words of life and so forth? Look, if you want to discuss a view on this topic, please do. If your intent is just to make judgments about my spiritual maturity or infer that I'm carnal and divisive, please don't. Putting "in all his love" at...

No, we will dwell with God on the new earth. It's called "heaven" because the "kingdom of heaven" is fully manifest. You are determined to find something here to object to aren't you. This is why JWs are viewed as a cult, because they love to major in these minor details and you are obviously...

Hey Angelina, Glad to hear you are searching these things out. A book I would recommend is Perspectives on Election: Five Views. It provides a range of different views on these issues from various scholars. Dr. Cottrell's chapter on "The Classical Arminian View of Election" is one of the...

So by this rational, we don't need to repent, be baptized, or confess Christ. MJ, the context of Romans already deals heavily with baptism in chapter 6. Furthermore, the focus of chapter 10 is not a plan of salvation, but is a discussion about whether or not Gentiles can be saved by faith...

HiddenManna, I am not combining Calvinism and Arminianism. I would consider myself Arminian. I believe you are thinking of Pelagianism. Pelagianism would argue that man is not totally depraved and is born with a clean slate. This is not classical Arminianism. If you are really interested...

I dont know how else I can say this but it seems no one is grasping the concept. One can believe someone is totally depraved and must be drawn by God and still believe in free will. Really, this is part of the doctrine of Arminians...God must draw people because they are totally depraved...

Ok. Matthew 5:3 Matthew 5:12 Matthew 5:20 Matthew 6:20 1 Cor. 15:48 2 Cor. 5:1 Col 1:5 However, my point is not that you are wrong on your view that we will dwell in an earthly paradise. My point is that Christians believe this as well and have coined that earthly paradise "heaven." Moreover...

The problem you are having here is with the term "heaven." Heaven does not mean "non-earth dwelling." Matthew refers almost fifty times to the "Kingdom of heaven." Heaven means the rule and reign of God. So when the rule and reign of God is manifested on earth, we call this "heaven." God is...

In Christ, I have selected some of your quotes and numbered them to respond to them in order. There is a great deal in your statements that I disagree with strongly. 1. The "elect" are chosen by God's foreknowledge. They are not predetermined by God's arbitrary will, but are the elect who...

Alan, You make me laugh. You keep repeating the same old tired arguments without a shred of defense. You obviously don't know Greek. You should stop pretending 1) that you know Greek and 2) that the Greek is radically different than what translators have presented. If you have a different...

I believe in "heaven" as in a new heavens and new earth where we will live in the presence of God. I believe in the torment of hell (whether it is literal fire is irrelevant in my mind). I believe Jesus was crucified on a cross (which I already gave you the historical validation of...

Alan, Since you know Greek so well, lets walk through the text. Shall we? “ὁ πιστεύσας καὶ βαπτισθεὶς σωθήσεται, ὁ δὲ ἀπιστήσας κατακριθήσεται.” (Mark 16:16, NA27) This says "the believing (present participle) and the being baptized (passive participle) will save/deliver. So how do you get...

domenic, I am glad to hear you left the JW's. However, I cannot respond to your theories of Satan's activities and how he is using various groups for various purposes. This appears to be all conjecture and so there is nothing I can really say about it. The Mormons/Latter Day Saints would...

Ariminians have never argued against the concept of predestination. It is obviously a biblical concept. The problem is that often it is infused with Calvinist ideas of sovereignty which is not synonymous with predestination. The Greek word for predestination is proorizo. Orizo means to "to...

Domenic, I see, so you are a Jehovah's Witness then. I must say such stances are highly unorthodox, and in my opinion, highly unbiblical. Allow me to deal with your objections, and if you would like, I can start a separate post dealing with the divinity of Christ and the teaching of Scripture...

I wouldn't worry Mungo, this is coming from a person who argues that 1 Peter 3:21 doesn't actually say, "baptism now saves you." It's better to know where your views are not expressly stated in Scripture than to believe all your views are straight from Scripture and be dead wrong! Ha! :lol:

Domenic, If you are going to post your beliefs in a Christian debate forum, you should not assume a martyr complex when people oppose your ideas. It's the nature of the forum. Christians can disagree with each other and still love each other. Many of Paul's epistles instruct Christians how to...

As I side note, the title of this forum is not very accurate. Predestination is not contrary to free will. A more accurate title would be "Unconditional Predestination or 'Free Will?'" Those in the free will camp certainly hold to predestination, but it is a conditional predestination not an...