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  1. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    I didn't think so. You should quit trying to discuss linguistics. Yes. However, you are confusing derivative with inflection. A derivative is a different word formed from the same root. Determine and determination are two different words with the same root. The words do not mean the same...
  2. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    Yeah, I think im far more aware of language studies than you realize. The word protozoa is derived from two Greek words, protos "first" and zoe "life." Its an evolutionary idea that a single celled organism is less evolved than a multicelled organism. However, the etymology of this word does...
  3. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    What you don't seem to understand is that the word means "patron." The ROOT of the word derives from ruling. The English word "understanding" is comprised of two roots "under" and "stand". Thus, the word pictures someone underneath something cognitively. However, the ROOTS "under" and...
  4. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    4368 /prostátis, which is used of a woman who has an impressive Christian reputation (Phoebe, Ro 16:2).] Did you get that 101G? "impressive reputation" Not female elder. Not teacher. "Impressive reputation." THERE IS NO GREEK WORD FOR FEMALE ELDER. Quit making stuff up.
  5. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, This is another classic example of why someone who does not know Greek should not be trying to use it to establish doctrine. Words mean what their contexts allow. This is like saying "Samson was strong" and then saying, "Melissa made a strong argument." For someone to come along and...
  6. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    7angels, Don't take my words as being hostile. They are not intended that way. Paul had a true heart and he was wrong in persecuting Christians. I wouldn't wait for some subjective experience to illumine you. You have the clear teaching of God's Word on this matter. Thanks for the prayers...
  7. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    7angels, By your rationale, the bible is hardly necessary...we should only focus on what works. This argument would work well for a host of issues such as homosexuality, unmarried couples living together, and even Mormons and JWs for that matter. Just because a male may be a poor pastor...
  8. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, Correction. You have been "teaching" errors and I have been attempting in vain to correct you. Thus we are debating. :rolleyes: #1 and #2 are the same claim and I have never changed my view on it. Think about it awhile. LOOK, having a wife have nothing to do with the...
  9. Wormwood

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    Polt, I agree with you on the age of adulthood issue. However, viewing circumcision and baptism as one and the same is a big error in my estimation. First, this view completely demolishes all of the biblical imagery of baptism. Baptism is supposed to signify death to self and sin, burial...
  10. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, I think you are doing too many acid tests. Yes, this is a debate. Here is the English definition for debate (seems I have to tutor you on both English and Greek) A formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put...
  11. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, Nice job avoiding the points with insults. It seems everything I said went right over your head. If you want a debate, try responding with content, not snide remarks. I know Greek, you know Strongs word numbers. Big difference. You are like a monolingual American trying to give a...
  12. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, So not only are you more of a Greek scholar than the thousands who have given us all our translations, but you want us to believe that "the husband of one wife" is conditional, but "ask their husbands at home" is not. You seem to want to pick an choose segments of scripture to ignore and...
  13. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, That word should not be translated "wife." Look at the context. Paul talks about the dress of women, holy women of the past, and Adam and Eve. The "woman" was decieved, not the man. This is so obviously intended as a contrast in gender in this entire context that it is abundantly...
  14. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, that argument might make sense if Paul didn't prohibit women from teaching and make teaching a requirement for elders. "I do not permit a woman to teach." "An elder must be able to teach." You can dance around the marriage thing all you want but this is about as plain as it gets.
  15. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, One is a verb and one is a noun. Is it really this hard? Someone can manage something or someone without holding the title "manager." You don't seem to get the difference between an act and an office. Paul was an Apostle, which means "one sent." However if my wife "sends me out" to...
  16. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, Lets just set the record straight. It seems clearly you are not after a scholarly dialogue in search of truth. You are on a campaign for an issue and are really not humbly seeking the truth. I have shown you what commentaries say. I have shown you what your own hermeneutics expert...
  17. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    7angels, Im almost out of time but let me briefly reply. 1) These arent "requirements" but standards of character and life. So, no, someone does not have to have many kids (their children must be..) nor do they have to be married (husband of one wife). 2) The reason that this is...
  18. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    Polt, Actually, it can be a great problem when people start taking "clues" from Greek. Often knowing just a little Greek is worse than knowing none at all. Its like having a monkey with a hand grenade. Its better to either leave it alone or know a significant amount. People try to make...
  19. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, In Greek, a word is maculine or feminine based on its ending. In some instances the for deacon is feminine. This does not mean for sure its about a female, but its possible.. Clearly in some instances it is referring to men (husband of one wife) but in some cases it could be referring...
  20. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    101G, First, I'd appreciate it if you didn't question my salvation because I disagree with your biblical exegesis. Second, I try to respond when I have time. I'm busy so if it takes me a while, please be patient. Third, I never said I did not believe women can be deaconesses. I believe...