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  1. Wormwood

    Predestination or "Free Will?"

    Actually, Arminians that defend "free will" do not discount total depravity. It is a frequent error by Calvinists to suggest that Arminians do not believe that humans are completely and totally depraved. They do. They simply argue that God's grace allows for human cooperation. God's grace...
  2. Wormwood

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    I'll take it by that response that you concede the points and have no further support for your arguments.
  3. Wormwood

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    So I can only know Greek if I agree with your theology? Hmmmm. Since, you don't seem to know Greek, that doesnt make much sense to me. Not sure it works that way Alan. Actually, Peter says "baptism now saves you." Ill just stick with the text and not try to psychoanalyze Peter. A number of...
  4. Wormwood

    Baptism: Why immersion ONLY is wrong

    Yeah, we have found more documents and have much more scholarship on the matter since 1957...as the NBD indicates.
  5. Wormwood

    Baptism: Why immersion ONLY is wrong

    Mungo, Acts 2 does not say where the people were baptized. Could have been a mikvah (which does not discount my point that they were immersed), could have been something like the pool of Siloam, perhaps they took them out to a body of water outside the city. The text is not specific. Do you...
  6. Wormwood

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    Alan, this is a non-argument. Give me a text to work with if you have a Scriptural point to prove. 1. Yes, I do know Greek. I have taken numerous classes on both Greek and Hebrew (although my Hebrew is very weak). I am fairly proficient in Greek and have a hard copy of the NA27 I can read...
  7. Wormwood

    Baptism: Why immersion ONLY is wrong

    Actually, the early church immersed. If you want to go possibly to the second century and more prominently to the third and fourth century that's when sprinkling was introduced. So if you mean early church as in hundreds of years later, then I guess early is a relative term. The early church...
  8. Wormwood

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    To be precise, I said I do not go by "your" personal experience. However, I must say that was somewhat of a low blow. Nothing like discussing Scripture to have someone malign your faith and relationship with God. Yes, I know how to do hermeneutics. Do you know Greek? Because the NA27 I...
  9. Wormwood

    Baptism: Why immersion ONLY is wrong

    Mungo, Even if baptism foreshadows the purification rites of Levites and so forth, this does not change the clear communication of the mode of baptism. Baptism means immersion. You have yet to adequately explain this very clear concept away. I already responded to these statements, but I will...
  10. Wormwood

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    I understand. But what is "faith?" Faith in what? Faith in Jesus? What does that look like? Is it merely some ideas about who Jesus was? James says demons have that kind of "faith." Faith is a trusting obedience to the words and authority of God over someones life. God tells us we are...
  11. Wormwood

    You are not saved yet...not by a long shot!

    Then its on you to explain the past tense word "saved" in the NT. By your rationale, no one can ever declare to be saved until the Kingdom of God is fully established. There is a now and not yet to the NT understanding of salvation. Just as we are washed of sin though we still live in sinful...
  12. Wormwood

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    Well, in my mind, Levi, too many people put too much emphasis on their own ideas than following Scriptural precedents. No one is saying getting wet makes you a Christian. I agree that repentence is necessary (and this is not just another "step" in a process either). However, where do we find...
  13. Wormwood

    Baptism: Why immersion ONLY is wrong

    Sola oratio fide? Sola confiteanture Christus? Sola pœniténtia?
  14. Wormwood

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    Mungo, you have a unique way of missing the obvious and stating the obvious. First, if there is so much "commonality" then why does Paul expect the first and reject the second for Christians? Clearly Paul did not see this commonality. In fact, it appears that in Paul's mind, there was a great...
  15. Wormwood

    Baptism: Why immersion ONLY is wrong

    Well, actually you provided some OT purification rite passages to try to explain away both the clear meaning of the word as well as the the very clear implications of going down "into" a body of water. Your arguement is like trying to argue that one can have faith without believing. The Koine...
  16. Wormwood

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    Oh, so we need to find Scriptures that "exclude" something to prove it doesnt teach it? Really? Also, by this rationale, we should only evangelize dads. If we can save the dad than the whole family is assure to go to heaven. Actually, all Israelites were circumcised and God-fearing Gentiles...
  17. Wormwood

    Baptism: Why immersion ONLY is wrong

    Mungo, I could not disagree more. Point 1: Actually its quite the opposite. Every text that describes baptism (not mentioning the meaning of the word itself) has people going down into and coming up out of water. Point 2: The word baptism, literally means "to dunk, to dip." You are...
  18. Wormwood

    Baptism: Its Meaning and Significance

    Ruth, Actually, infant baptism was noted by Justin Martyr as something that started taking place in his day (and he disagreed with it). There is no scriptural precedent for infant baptism. See above.
  19. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    Haha, this quote from you says it all. I cant even convince you that two different words with different definitions are, in fact, different. Wow.
  20. Wormwood

    Female Pastors

    I did answer. Slow down and read. No. Determine and determination are not the same word. Noun - Determination Firmness of purpose; resoluteness. The process of establishing something exactly, typically by calculation or research...