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  1. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Sorry, it appears that many are headed off into eternity with the wrong perspective. Some already think that man will live on forever, either in a new global earth, or an off world place of a forever burning Hell. 1Cor.2[5] That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but [rather] in...
  2. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    A quote from Father Chapin: B-asic I-nstructions B-efore L-eaving E-arth (Dailing Living with Father Chapin) A typical broadcast: My Daily Living
  3. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    The punish-ment of death is everlasting, forever. The punish-ing of death is temporary, until death is achieved. "Punishment" is in the KJV NT scriptures. "Punishing" is not.
  4. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    No need to argue. According to 1 John 5:12, for we who are born again of His Holy Spirit, we have "already" the gift of Eternal life. We are just "patiently" waiting for the Day of His Glorious appearance, to be immortalized into His likeness.
  5. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    OK, but on a plain, one can see for a very long distance, without any obstacles to block one's vision. Again, WHAT did Lot's wife see?? She saw God in all His fiery vengeance. And because she did, she was not able to stay alive!! Indeed she was "consumed" as it was foretold.
  6. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    A few posts back, I quoted John 3:18[18] (1.) He that believeth on him is not condemned [judged]: (2.) but he that believeth not is condemned [judged] already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. What most Christians are not aware of is that there are...
  7. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    In the KJV. Of course I understand the spiritual value of not looking back. As a born again Christian, I am in full agreement of your words.
  8. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    You can decline to answer. I understand. Yes, the story of the rich man and Lazaruth is a parable, a fictious story, told in order to deliver a single truth. What was that single truth? Of course Jesus' resurrected body was tangible. But is that all that you know? When the disciples were in the...
  9. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Dead is dead, destroyed is destroyed. If there be anything of an existence for the destroyed unsaved, it would be the Carbon atoms of their burning, ascending up into the infinity of space.
  10. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    OK, back to Luke 17 [28] Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; [29] But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. [30] Even thus shall it be in the...
  11. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    And so have I been guite clear. I get it, you see unsaved people living forever in some sort of off world community, other than the New heavens and the New earth. Sorry, you haven't even begun to digest that yet, never mind the issue at hand, that we are discussing. Here is a clue: "We have...
  12. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Let's all allow the Holy Spirit, through both Peter and Paul, answer my question, of what kind of future the wicked shall have: 1 Peter 4[17] For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of...
  13. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    And my question is of course, how are the wicked dead going to eternally exist, since they never were given anything of God or from Him, that is eternal? You are answering all around that, attempting to force fit your reasoning for the eternal existence of the unsaved wicked, without explaining...
  14. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    For all of your reply, it still does not answer the intent of my question: how is each and all of mankind an eternal soul? How and when do they receive from God, the state of eternal existence upon physical birth?
  15. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    If God imparted a percentage of His Eternal Being into Adam via "the breath of life", as an eternally living soul, how then does all the human race inherit that same portion of God's Eternal Spirit, when they are concieved and born as a child from his/her parents? I say imparted, because only...
  16. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    I hope that you understand that our salvation and redemption is a two stage process. 1. We all are being "called" to take part in the first resurrection (who is Christ), by first repenting towards God, through faith in the sacrificial work of Christ. KJV Revelation 20:6. 2. From that point, we...
  17. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Good question. I'm not sure why. Maybe for the same reason that Moses wrote "breath of life", and not oxygenated air? Maybe it's all for the lack of a deeper understanding of all things? We must remember the reality of Isaiah 55:8-9. God must use our lowly and limited languages of words, in...
  18. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Amen! That is absolutely correct!!
  19. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Ever since man's fall in the Garden, God the Father has deeply longed (longsuffering) to be part of we, who are His creation. But that day could not come, until God the Son came here to be the Lamb of God for us, as well as for His Father. Now that He has come, through faith in Him and the...
  20. Earburner

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Pinseeker wrote: "No, He created man ~ all of us ~ in His image, and that means many things, including his existence into eternity future." Earburner's reply: > From the mind of God, His thoughts IMAG-ined us to be created in "resemblance" to His "likeness" (H6755, G1504), but not an exact copy...