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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    Oh I am VERY aware that those types of people/institutions exist. I would rather just acknowledge people whom accept Christ as Christians, rather than piling on extra requirements.
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    Some good information for Dave

    That is a false and completely unneeded personal attack. Actually it's completely true. In fact, at any random visit to the temple, likely 75% of the people there are female. Not so. Except I will acknowledge you site ex-axe-grinders. Ears so shut... Your axe-grinder reports a frequently...
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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    Dude: I nor no one else thinks their denomination people were the one's crucified on the cross. Everyone acknowledges it was Christ. That discipleship is what it is to be a Christian. I have stated repeatedly that I do not deny your discipleship or standing as a Christian. I said that...
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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    The core of being a Christian is being a disciple of Christ- loving and following Him. Past that foundational core, there is a huge variety of beliefs. If a person finds that variety to be intimidating or confusing, I would recommend doing some hard core scripture study and prayer (which...
  5. J

    The Five Points of Calvinism

    Again: I am a Christian. As are Calvinist Christians, Catholic Christians, Methodist Christians, etc.
  6. J

    The Five Points of Calvinism

    They are all Christians. Different denotations and different views on a lot of points, but still all Christians.
  7. J

    The Five Points of Calvinism

    I call you a Calvinist because you seem to follow the teaching of Calvin (denial of free will, etc), whether or not you were aware of it before. It is not denying your standing as a Christian at all -- after all Calvinists are Christians. A Calvinist is just a particular type of Christian...
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    New Here

    Hello @Bobby Jo !
  9. J

    Some good information for Dave

    CoreIssue, I have explained things to you many times, and offered to explain anything further. You have blatantly ignored all this information in favor of laughable untruths, literally plaining you know everything (despite never actually stepping foot in any these churches you claim to have...
  10. J

    Some good information for Dave

    And that is something LDS Christians 100% agree on. There is disagreement on *how* three are one between Athanasian and LDS Christians, as previously discussed.
  11. J

    The Five Points of Calvinism

    (I think this was supposed to be addressed to me) I already acknowledged that Calvinists are Christians. I am not denying your love of Christ or your devotion to Him-- never would I do such a blind and hateful thing. Now, that being said, under the Christian umbrella, there are a very large...
  12. J

    The Five Points of Calvinism

    Thinking about this is, probably simpler/cleaner to start a new thread or have a PM conversation. But if you want, the tangent started out for some for Dave's tangent is "Some good information for Dave"
  13. J

    The Five Points of Calvinism

    If you want to go on that target, I would invite you to post on the thread already for those tangental thoughts, or start a new one (which is probably a cleaner/simpler ideas).
  14. J

    The Five Points of Calvinism

    Again, Jesus isn't teaching Calvinism in those verses. Repeating those same verses or personally insulting me is not going to change the verses or the fact that a sheep *voluntarily* follows the shepard. Posted on this very thread, by a Calvinist: (Bolding mine) God only saves *some*. I keep...
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    The Five Points of Calvinism

    And under Calvinism, God doesn't show many people anything else.
  16. J

    Some good information for Dave

    After studying dozens of different faith traditions, I've come across a number of commonalities. One that all share is: There are certain doctrines which are non-negotiable must-believes. Others doctrines/ideas which it's ok for people to have different interpretations/beliefs/opinions on...
  17. J

    Some good information for Dave

    @Dave L : Not a SINGLE thing they documented is an actual LDS doctrinal source. I will wait for you to acknowledge this fact before continuing any further discussion.
  18. J

    Some good information for Dave

    @Dave L : Not a SINGLE thing they documented is an actual LDS doctrinal source. I will wait for you to acknowledge this fact before continuing any further discussion.
  19. J

    Some good information for Dave

    They (your book's authors) are lying in the name of God. Yes, that's a problem. They are continuing to bear false witness over and over again. Again, not a single "source" you've been point on here is an actual source.
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    Some good information for Dave

    I keep showing you how this book is actively giving you false information, and yet you keep quoting from it...