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  1. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Jesus is the Vine, we are the branches. Branches that abide in the Vine are supplied with the substance that is in the Vine, and are able thereby to bear fruit; branches that do not abide are not supplied with the substance that is in the Vine, and are incapable of bearing fruit. Branches that...
  2. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    They had already believed the Gospel and received the Spirit (3:1-3)--after believing and receiving the Spirit, they were accounted as having "ran [the race of faith] well" but then were "hindered" (5:7), thus were "severed from Christ" (5:4) and were "deserting God" (1:6). You can't desert...
  3. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Yup, whoever has the Son has the life, which is only in the Son. When have I ever denied this?
  4. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    To you, then, being severed from Christ and thrown in the fire is not a salvific issue. OK. I'm sure any reasonable reader can be trusted to see through such nonsense. 1. Mt 7 is specifically about false prophets, but not all sinning Christians actually are false prophets, so the statement to...
  5. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Nope, Paul's objection is to them being under the Law (Gal 4:21), and his solution is not "Christ alone", it's "serve one another through love".
  6. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Nope, it says "is coming to Me"--ongoing present tense action--which just gets you back to square one: abiding is necessary for eternal life.
  7. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    You have no answer for the Scripture, so you resort to ad hominem. That's what's "sad".
  8. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Well, all, I can do is point to the actual language, which is clear. I gave an example, too. The Galatians were sons of God through faith in Christ, THEREFORE God sent the Spirit of His Son into their hearts. Again, the Spirit is in Christ--the branches abiding in the Vine are supplied with...
  9. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    1 Jn 5:11 Yes, the life/Spirit is in Christ--for that reason, only those who abide in Him receive the Spirit. 1 Jn 3:23-24 Yes, it says those who obey Him abide in Him and they receive the Spirit. This is just as Galatians 4 says, "Because you are sons in Christ God sent the Spirit of His Son...
  10. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    If you look through the discussion, it is not "of course"--they want to deny the truth because they hold to a man made tradition which is threatened by the Apostolic dogma. Right, but because abiding is by obeying they don't like that doctrine. It seems unavoidable that, even though someone...
  11. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    The main discussion is not on defining "abiding", just that "abiding" is necessary, and that some do not "abide" (1 Jn 2:28)--ie, an argument against OSAS. That said, the commands that 1 John lays out are as follows: 1 John 3:23,24 23And this is His commandment, that we believe in the name of...
  12. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    It would be best if we all abstained from characterization of our opponents. The topic is not "What is the character of my opponents? Good? Bad? Ugly?" Therefore, engaging in that discussion does not move the actual discussion forward. The topic is "Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life"...
  13. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    I wouldn't be so quick to judge my opponents as hellbound! Also, I prefer to stick to discussing the pertinent Scriptures, not to speculate about my opponents' spiritual standing!
  14. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Well, I will still say that they can know God even if they don't agree with me doctrinally--and I don't believe that people who disagree with me have to remain in sin, since I heard John Piper, who believes in OSAS, said that God gave him the grace to not even be attracted to a woman other than...
  15. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    I don't say that they don't know God. We know God because He is merciful (Jer 31:34), not because we have perfect doctrine. I do say that they don't speak accurately--and that they're not helpful to people who have genuine questions. They hold to some of the Gospel truth, so God is with them.
  16. GracePeace

    Answered Prayer

    1. The point was that it didn't get answers for me, so I recommend bringing your difficulties to God over fasting. 2. Nevertheless, fasting varies. You may skip a meal or two. You may fast for a day, or two days, or a week, or two weeks, or a month, or longer. Those are decisions that are...
  17. GracePeace

    Answered Prayer

    I fast from food by not eating it? I'm not sure if I'm understanding your question.
  18. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    If I'm lucky, they respond to the OP, then, they quickly get debunked, then, since they have nothing left to say, they stand around lodging false accusations--consisting in, basically, "You don't agree with my view because you're unspiritual--nevermind that I can't defend my view using...
  19. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    True, which is why I put "RitaJanice" on ignore. LOL Yep, the one who does good works will, in due time, if they persist, REAP eternal life (Gal 6:6-10)! The "doer of the law" will be REPAID eternal life (Ro 2:6-16)! So clear!
  20. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Scripture says the eternal life/Spirit is only located "in Christ" (1 Jn 5:11). Those who abide in Christ by obeying Him are supplied with that (1 Jn 3:23,24). Branches abiding in the Vine are supplied with its substance and bear fruit (Jn 15). Those who do not abide do not receive the...