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  1. J

    Some good information for Dave

    One thing I've noticed about "anti-cult" apologists- They create this idea that "oh, these poor people are brainwashed, they just believe what they've been told and haven't put any thought into it." And then they proceed to "educate" people and just urge the audience member to just listen to the...
  2. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Once again, this isn't even an LDS doctrinal source. Your book keeps giving you junk info.
  3. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Again: even the documentation is false. The sources they quote aren't even LDS doctrinal sources. For a third time: I don't care if anyone agree with my beliefs. Totally don't care. But trying to "disprove" something no one believes is just downright silly. Let us instead by earnest disciples...
  4. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Again, the sources they quote aren't even LDS doctrinal sources. I've already addreseed this fact before, only to have you ignore.
  5. J

    Some good information for Dave

    You mean the professionals who make their money lying in the name of God about what others believe? And selling these lies to unsuspecting Christians? Quoting them is really not helping your case here.
  6. J

    The Five Points of Calvinism

    I totally agree that Jesus doesn't talk about force. Calvinism does. Jesus does not teach Calvinism. I love Truth and Christ. I am completely opposed to Calvinism. It is the L in TULIP- Limited atonement. God only loves some people and only died for some people. The rest were created by...
  7. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Dave, I've given you the good information, being entirely honest about what I believe. You keep ignoring those facts in favor of these false ideas from a junk book.
  8. J

    The Five Points of Calvinism

    What is yours? What benefit does God gain out a person being created and pre-destined to be sent there for all eternity?
  9. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Ok lots of points to address here-- - LDS believe very firmly that the only perfect person to have walked this earth is Christ. All others (including the prophets) are men serving God. Yes, they can be His mouthpieces, but that does not imply constant 24/7 perfection. This includes Brigham...
  10. J

    The Five Points of Calvinism

    So what then in the purpose of the people that God creates fallen, devoid of freewill, and forces to Hell? What is gained by their damned eternities?
  11. J

    Some good information for Dave

    I specifically discussed how I am not an Athanasian Christian. I did not say that I am a polytheist, because that is not my belief nor the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Is a book full of false info.
  12. J

    Some good information for Dave

    I literally highlight the differences in it's own paragraph Can't get anymore direct than that.
  13. J

    Some good information for Dave

    It's literally in post #2. And we talked more about it in the following posts. And yes, I thoroughly addressed the actual beliefs here.
  14. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Another junk book that can't be bothered to get it's facts straight (and yes, I have read that exact book).
  15. J

    Some good information for Dave

    I literally did that the second post of this thread, only to have you continue repeating it. Why do you think CARM neglects to tell it's reader the sources it's citing aren't actually LDS doctrinal sources? (Despite the horrible misnomer that is the name of McConkie's book).
  16. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Oh, you're making me laugh here. You'd be hard pressed to find a person who's more thoroughly and honestly studied a variety of viewpoints.
  17. J

    Some good information for Dave

    I have literally discussed how of these points are incorrect/flawed TWICE already. Oh, the classic "anti-cult" line and ego shining through. Supposing that a 15 minute glimpse teaches these "secret" stuff that someone how's done an in-depth decadal study (including look these exact same...
  18. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Actually, I spent 5 years of intense study on that exact topic, including hearing a variety of viewpoints. I literally highlight the similarities and the differences. Note: my studying of different viewpoints includes months of time, attending services in person, having lengthy conversations...
  19. J

    Some good information for Dave

    30+ years, and have been addressing these exact same misconceptions for 15 of those years. It's much more than the 15 minute approach.