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No it doesn't! You cannot disprove eternal security is indeed eternal by pointing out that even believers while clothed in mortal, corruptible bodies, destined to die, may still choose to sin. Why does Christ say: John 11:26 (KJV) And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die...

Yes, we've established His people He will not cast away are the elect of God, those who do His will! We were seeking to discern who His people are, and I believe we have fairly well resolved this issue. However you seem to need to know who shall die in unbelief, and why, or what they shall do...

It would not be beneficial for me to return to a previous reply without knowing what you consider to be error in my reply? Please simply show what you believe to be erroneously applied. Since you highlighted "do not add to His words", I assume you believe I have done this. Therefore you should...

Man consists of physical body of dust of the earth, and spirit breath of life, that which gives life to our body, and the two parts together became a "living soul." Solomon tells us that when our body dies, it is our spirit as an incomplete (without physical body) living soul that returns to...

Exactly David! I'm glad you brought in this passage, because when read in context we find the body that we in Christ are raised to heaven with after our physical body dies is not natural, and of the earth, but is supernatural and of heaven. Paul writes: 1 Corinthians 15:44-49 (KJV) It is...

How are the saints in heaven after their body has died and returns to dust? Do you deny heaven is NOT a physical place, but is a spiritual place, the habitation of God, Who is Spirit and the heavenly angels who are also spirit beings and not physical beings in heaven?

Now you're confusing me? You earlier said those who have been resurrected shall return with the Christ when He returns. Now you say the rapture and resurrection are one in the same??? If you are speaking of the bodily resurrection of dead saints who shall be resurrected and changed to...

Yes, it is, I agree! Because only those who have part in resurrection life before they physically die shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air at His coming again on the last day.

Then why are you demanding we conform to your belief system regarding Zechariah 14? It doesn't seem as though you are doing what you demand of others, "prostrate ourselves and cast our own crowns before Him = never imposing our view in His Presence/Word"!

Paul makes no distinction or difference when saying the day of the Lord and the day of Christ. Paul doesn't treat them at two separate days as you are.

Yes, those who come with Christ are those who have been resurrected. However, Scripture informs us that none shall be bodily resurrected before the hour coming in which bodies are physically resurrected either to resurrection life, or damnation. In what body will those who return with Christ...

The problem with this statement is that you are assuming Paul is speaking of sudden destruction upon "them" as speaking of Israel. Because you've taken the verse out of context to prove an unbiblical opinion or preconception. We know who "them" is when we put the verse back in the context for...

Yes Tim, they shall all be destroyed! That is exactly why they wonder who shall be able to stand on the Day of Him who sits on the throne, because only those who are found in the book of life shall NOT be cast into the lake of fire that is the second death. ALL of the DEAD shall be called to...

They aren't asking who shall be able to survive the wrath of God coming against the whole earth to destroy them all (unbelievers). They are asking who shall be able to stand after His wrath is poured upon the whole earth, and they are called before Him that sitteth on the throne, who shall THEN...

I agree the OT saints by grace through faith were covered by Christ's atoning blood, according to Covenant promise. They believed the prophesy preached of the Messiah who would come to cleanse them of sin and redeem them from death. It is in this way the Old Covenant faithful saints were...

But earlier you said deception is not sin, and now you say Adam disobeyed God, and sin entered the world and messed things us. The way they committed sin and disobeyed God was in heeding the voice of deception. IOW being deceived caused sin to enter into creation, and death came through this...

What about what the Lord Jesus tells the prophets? He says this time is given so the Gospel of the Kingdom would be preached unto all the earth, then comes the end, not ONE thousand more years of time. Matthew 24:14 (KJV) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a...

I don't find this opinion proposed of Christians. I don't know of any brother or sister in Christ who would argue Christians are free to live like the devil and still have eternal life in Christ. The truth is that anyone who claims the name of Christ and believes we can do whatever we want and...

True, context is the key to understanding. So why do you quote verses out of context? For instance, in Ro 11:22 who is Paul speaking of? I ask because in verses 1 & 2 Paul says that God shall not cast away His people whom He foreknows. Read in context we learn that salvation is according to...

How do you reconcile your understanding of these verses against the verses that also tell us that when we are saved we are eternally secure through Christ? Can biblical doctrine contradict and still be trustworthy?