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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I'm glad to hear you aren't upset, neither am I. I'm not promoting unbiblical doctrine. I'm not arguing anything that Amil Christians have not agreed is truth since the advent of Christ. The only real disagreement in this discussion that I can tell, is saying the Kingdom of God is complete in...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I really don't see any differences that would affect doctrine within these versions and the KJV. They all say in the days the seventh angel sounds. Saying this begins days before the actual sounding does not change the fact that the mystery of God as He announced to His servants the prophets...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That could well be? During Satan's little season the lines in the sand will be drawn. One shall either be for Christ or for Satan when Christ appears the second time.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I know this and have said as much. But why not address what the passage does say? What is the "mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets." Do you deny this is connected to "there should be time no longer:"? If the time spoken of here is time...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Maybe I'm a little slow or perhaps dense? But I've yet to read a biblical refutation of what I have said.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes, of course I agree. If we have lived and reigned or shall live and reign with Christ in time, then we have everlasting life through Him. Yes, that's because "a thousand years" symbolizes time (not all time) given the Chruch on earth for building the spiritual Kingdom of God as they take...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How does this address the reply you appear to be responding to?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Perhaps if I paraphrase my thoughts on this passage of Scripture, who knows it may help??? There shall be no more time allotted for the saints to proclaim the Gospel unto the world during the time (days) the angel blows the seventh trumpet indicating the Kingdom of God is finished/complete...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Does not John write the martyred souls he sees in heaven are alive after death because in their lifetimes the lived and reigned with Christ during this time, symbolized a thousand years? As well as these living souls, does not John also write there shall be other saints, blessed and holy who...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Prior to the advent of Christ and Satan being bound he was free to hold in fear of bondage to death all the Gentile nations of the earth. The only nation having heard the good news of the Messiah who would come to redeem them from death was Israel. By His shed blood and resurrection Christ...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I don't guess it really matters SI, since you've said, and I reluntantly agree that it would perhaps be better to agree to disagree regrading the sounding of the seventh trumpet.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    If the thousand years expire after the fifth trumpet why does John write the thousand years is time the faithful live and reign with Christ before Satan is loosed?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I seem to really have some Amils up in the air over this difference of opinion of the seventh angel sounding. I don't deny the last trumpet ushers in the final days of human history when Christ shall return. Perhaps, being a Pastor, you cannot fathom a point in time when the Gospel has...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    But you have not been able to adequately or even biblically explain why I have misunderstood. I believe my replies have addressed your argument with you believing that ALL time ends in the days of the sounding of the seventh trumpet. I don't even disagree with ALL time coming to an end, but I...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I was saying that I agree with what you said. IOW you presented my understanding pretty well.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You cannot have all time ending when the final trumpet sounds when Satan is still given a little season of time. I agree the days (plural) of the seventh trumpet sounding shall be of great climatic, intensified persecution upon Christ and Christians, because that's when Satan shall have his...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    If you understood the purpose for Satan to be bound is for building the spiritual Kingdom of God, not so that he cannot wage a great battle upon this earth.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    John cannot write that ALL of time shall end when the seventh angel begins to sound. Because that would mean time that is symbolically written a thousand years expires. But when this time symbolically written a thousand years expires, Satan is loosed for a little season of TIME. All of time...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, it's not merely ONE thousand years of time. But it is time symbolically written as that which began with the first advent of Christ and will end in the days when the seventh angel begins to sound. No, the trumpet sounding of the seventh angel does not mention the thousand years. It does...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Your understanding doesn't hold since this great battle you say Satan is being set free to wage NEVER develops!