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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What's the purpose for a thousand years? Does not John say it was to prevent Satan from deceiving the nations no more until the thousand years should be fulfilled? We know how the nations were being deceived before Satan was bound, by his ability to hold people in bondage to fear of death, and...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Rev 10 is the only passage connecting the seventh trumpet with the mystery of God that should be fulfilled, when there should be time no longer. Can you prove the mystery fulfilled when time is no longer is not the fullness of the Kingdom of God? And what is the time given where the saints...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Because according to the Covenant ordained in heaven from before the foundation of the world, Christ is the Lamb slain for His people. Faith in His blood covers whosoever believes in Him no matter when they lived and died. How can saints as living souls after death live and reign with Christ in...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I'm not causing contradiction, nor rejecting what shall be all consummating nature of the return of Christ in the day, which is the final day of the days when the trumpet shall sound. Yes, I agree the seventh trumpet indeed ushers in the time of general judgment coming upon the earth. This...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Well Paul, I partly agree because Amils do typically build their beliefs using ALL of Scripture. I cannot agree that I have not done this when seeking to fully understand the sounding of the seventh trumpet associated with Rev 10. I haven't forced my opinion upon the text, but rather I have...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I believe John writes the souls alive in heaven are there because while still alive they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. John also writes there shall be others blessed and holy, he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Who is left and desires to repent who is not already saved when Satan has been loosed before Christ comes again? There are none in between, there are nations in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, then there is the camp of the saints and the beloved city. The lines are already drawn...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You could very well be correct. However, I believe since Satan was bound so the Kingdom of God could be built as Gentiles come in through the Gospel, I don't believe he will be set free until the Kingdom of God is complete. Why would God set him free to deceive as he had before his binding if...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I would say the person living 70 years if he died belonging to Christ, has lived and reigned with Christ during this time likened a thousand years. It really doesn't matter if one has lived and reigned with Christ for only one day during their life, then died, they too have lived and reigned...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Its time equated to a thousand years because the saints live and die throughout this time, thus far almost two thousand years. When the last saint is saved in life, they have entered this time equated a thousand years. A thousand years could not begin to be counted until the advent of Christ...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It may seem reasonable to me, but I cannot prove it from the Bible. I've said it seems more reasonable to understand little season as a short or small amount of time. I have a differing opinion regarding Rev 6 little season. I believe a biblical argument can be made that the souls being...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No Paul, I don't believe I am. What I am doing is using verses found in other passages of Scripture to understand what John means when he writes the mystery of God should be finished in the days when the seventh angel begins to sound. IOW using Scripture to be its own interpreter.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It is time symbolized a thousand years because it is the lifetimes of all the saints, which is not all time but specifically counted as time we live and reign with Christ in life on earth. Yes after death just as proven in the Bible (see Ecc 12:7) when the body dies the spirit returns to God...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I truly cannot give an answer for what I do not know! As I've already said, I believe Satan's little season will be short because it is defined as least, less, little, small, a space of time, an individual opportunity; by implication, delay:—+ years old, season, space, (× often-)time(-s), (a)...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    In the days when the seventh angel begins to sound, after Satan has a little season.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How can it symbolize all time? Saints don't live and reign with Christ for all time, but only during their lives on earth. It is time that began with the first advent of Christ, and concludes when the Kingdom of God is complete, or as John writes the mystery of God that should be finished...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I don't know how long Satan is given a little season. I can only surmise through the Concordance that it's a very small amount of time. And surely you do not doubt that the earth during this time shall experience great climatic events as Satan, using Gog & Magog attempt to keep the Kingdom of...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I don't mean to imply the angel sounds for multiple days, but that multiple days are involved with the sounding, just as we find with every other sounding of the first six trumpets. This multiple days usher in the last day when Christ returns and all His enemies destroyed. The reason I...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No problem Paul, and thank you. I also have a great deal of respect for your knowledge of Scripture.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why do you argue I'm ignoring that? Yes the seventh trumpet does usher in Satan's "little season", as well as Christ's climatic appearing. Again, what is the mystery of God that is finished when this time shall be no longer? Your first sentence is what I've consistently stated. The climax...