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    What happens if one person in a marrige lives according to God and the other does not

    There's a lot of possibilities here: Obviously a couple shouldn't knowingly put themselves in this situation. If the situation happens after a couple gets married (either she converts or he falls away), that's not a blanket "get divorced now!" situation. Christ's words are to try to make it...
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    By this logic, I have never one met a (what you would call) truly converted Christian, not in all the churches I've visited. I have met some wonderful people, who truly strive to be like Christ, whom have burning testimonies of Him, and truly have been transformed by Him. But none that do not...
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Ah, this shorter response is so much easier to take in! Thank you. Double checking I understand you right: So a Christian who sins is not to be blamed for it, but they are still accountable for their actions and suffer the consequences. Correct?
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Ummm... ok, my understanding got totally lost here. Could you give me a short condensed answer just to my questions? Seeking clarification of your beliefs here: do you believe a Christian is culpable for their actions? Particularly the things they do which are not align with Christ's ways?
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    (Aside here: I really appreciate the civil conversation we've been having. Thank you for it). Point of clarification: I 100% believe this statement of yours "However, for myself, I absolutely did exercise my freewill to Choose to believe IN God, IN Christ.". 100%. Seeking clarification of...
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    I totally reject that above statements and don't find them factual at all. Coming to Christ does not remove a man's freewill -- like checking yourself into jail with Christ as the jailer. That's completely backwards: coming to Christ is freedom to the captives. A freed captive has freewill...
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Man can be forever with God, if they so choose to believe & accept the gift. If a man chooses to reject the gift (at any point), then they no longer have it (because they rejected it). It's really simple actually. And they still have that freewill. It never goes away (which is a big...
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Mary, I have asked the same question, half a dozen different ways now. I am trying my hardest to be respectful and patient with you here. Your responding with accusations of dishonesty is not appreciated.
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Mary, right now I'm getting the impression that you believe it is righteous to be uncharitable & disrespectful to people whose beliefs you find errant. In other words, it would be righteous for me to be uncharitable & disrespectful towards you and all other Catholics (because I find some...
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    I wrote a response here, highlighting how you attitude here shows OSAS as a rotten fruit in a classic way. But frankly, I don't think you're going to listen. So I'll skip it. Have fun on your life.
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Steve loved JESUS. He proclaimed Jesus from the very depths of his heart. He stood up on the worship stage and proclaimed this love in song. He found joy in OSAS- and proclaimed "My salvation is finished, Christ finished it on the cross!". Yes, Steve believed in Jesus and tangibly felt the...
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    SO, what i"m hearing here is "it doesn't matter if you earnestly believe with your whole being (like Steve did), yo don't get to know until you die whether or not that faith and salvation were real".
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Steve believed. Steve felt it. And yet in your understanding here, Steve wasn't really saved.
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    If you TRULY think I am wrong in showing you this charity and respect (even while so passionately disagreeing with those beliefs), please say so now.
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Ok, so Steve can't really know that he's saved until his life finishes with him as a good Christian, correct? Because if it finishes with him as an atheist he wasn't really saved in the first place.
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    But Steve didn't know that he would become an atheist and hence wasn't really saved. He had a great born-again experience, loved the church, loved Christ completely. And he was wrong to think he was saved?
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    #254. Should I REPENT of being kind and respectful to Catholics or other groups I find to be erroneous?
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    And how do you think I should treat you (a person who I seeing as believing some non-biblical doctrines). Should I deny your relationship with Christ? Lie about what you believe? Mock you? Mock what you believe? Refuse to support the good things about your relationship with Christ? Shun you...
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Ok, thank you for answering. Mike and Steve are brothers at church- your church even. They spend decades seeing in the church, and declaring the born again status they both so feel from the depths of their souls. At this point: (in your view) are either Mike or Steve saved? And how about 3...
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    You didn't answer my question: Do you want me to REPENT of respecting a faith I find to not be supported by the Bible? Yes or no.