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  1. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    I just want to clarify that, yes, part of "obeying" is believing in the Name of God's Son, believing that we have forgiveness--that much is certain, since, for instance, just as with Cornelius, the Galatians were said to have received the Spirit upon hearing with faith (since the Spirit was...
  2. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Please do not flood my thread with non-responsive posts trying to suppress my expression. I don't mind if you are actually responding to me--that I can deal with--but you're suppressing the discussion by just flooding the discussion with non-responsive responses. If you wish to express all of...
  3. GracePeace

    Following the UnCut Word Of God!

    I agree that "do not covet" is a holy, just, and good commandment (that was the commandment that was in view, there), but I also agree with Jesus that the Torah also contains many concessions that are not God's Holy will.
  4. GracePeace

    Following the UnCut Word Of God!

    I just noticed that this also was not an answer to the objection: the objection was that we do not serve by the Torah, not that we do not fulfill its righteous requirements. In fact, those who walk after the Spirit are said to fulfill "the whole Law" (Ro 13:8-10; Gal 5:14).
  5. GracePeace

    Following the UnCut Word Of God!

    I just noticed you didn't actually answer the objection: the Torah does NOT contain God's exact will, as Christ denounces its concessions. This reminds me of how Paul says "the righteous requirement"--"it has some righteous statutes, but it also contains concessions" could be one way of reading...
  6. GracePeace

    Following the UnCut Word Of God!

    Yeah, those who walk after the Spirit keep the Law, according to Paul--"against such things there is no Law"--so, no, we don't need Torah.
  7. GracePeace

    Following the UnCut Word Of God!

    Gentile believers, who do not know the Law, but who walk after the Spirit, are qualified as "doers of the Law" who will be "justified" for "doing good" (Ro 2:6-16, 26, 27), so, no, we don't need Torah--it never worked, and it doesn't work today. Grace works.
  8. GracePeace

    Following the UnCut Word Of God!

    All sin is "also" transgression of the Law, but not all breaking the Law is sin (eg, priests break the Sabbath while serving in the Temple, etc). The definition of sin is "indulgence in the flesh" Col 2:23--if you truly are indulging in the flesh, the Law can "also" testify about what you've done.
  9. GracePeace

    Following the UnCut Word Of God!

    The Torah is not God's exact will, since it contains concessions for hard-hearted (ie, wicked: "hardened through the deceitfulness of sin" Heb 3) men: i. Christ condemns "vows", permitted in Torah, as "of the evil one" (Mt 5). ii. Christ condemns "any cause" divorce, permitted in Torah, as...
  10. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    The Scripture won't change just because someone complains that they think it is "works"; the Scripture stands there, unmoved, saying the same as it has always said: you abide by obeying, and you're supplied with the Spirit if you abide, and you're not supplied with the Spirit if you don't abide...
  11. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    The Scriptures I provided say "abiding" is by "obeying", and that when we abide we are supplied with the eternal life that is only in God's Son (1 Jn 3:23,24). 1 John 2 28And now, little children, abide in him, so that when he appears we may have confidence and not shrink from him in shame at...
  12. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Some acknowledge that it is possible for a believer to fail to remain in Christ, but they want to deny it is an issue on which eternal life hinges. You are commanded to remain in Him to continue being supplied with His Spirit; we only remain in Him by obeying His commands (1 Jn 3:23,24). If we...
  13. GracePeace

    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    You are commanded to remain in Him to continue being supplied with His Spirit. We only remain in Him by obeying His command (1 Jn 3:23,24). If you think you are going to be saved while disobeying, and not receiving the eternal life, that's your business. You'll forgive me for rejecting that...
  14. GracePeace

    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    If you have an answer to what I've said, share it; if not, no need to make sniping remarks at me. That's not honest discussion. Just stick to the material.
  15. GracePeace

    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    People who don't agree with you will naturally "argue" against your view, yes. This is a discussion forum, discussion includes both agreement and disagreement, so I'm well within the guidelines of the forum.
  16. GracePeace

    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    I am trying not to make remarks about other users, just quoting Scripture to explain why I believe what I believe--making remarks about others does not move the discussion forward. You have no answer to Scripture--not that you've shared at least. Byebye!
  17. GracePeace

    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    Just prove your point from Scripture, and answer people when they prove their point from Scripture. That's what this discussion is about--not making disparaging remarks about other users.
  18. GracePeace

    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    Instead of getting frustrated, because you have no answer to Scripture, you should just follow Scripture when it is plainly shown to you.
  19. GracePeace

    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    God repays men with eternal life for their good deeds at the future judgment (Ro 2:6-16; Gal 6:6-10), and the deeds of darkness are "unfruitful" (Ep 5:11), and the "unfruitful" servant gets thrown to hell fire (Mt 25), so, yes, fruitfulness is a matter of life, just as the branch (disciple) that...
  20. GracePeace

    Losing Your Salvation - Bible Verses

    God's righteousness isn't "filthy rags", and it is only revealed "from faith to faith" (Ro 1:15,16,17), so if/when we don't walk by faith, but do things we doubt are correct, we "sin" and are "condemned" (Ro 14:5,23), whereas those who walk by faith (1 Jn 3:23,24) "remain in Christ" (1 Jn 2:28)...