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Again, I really do think our effort would be more profitably spent elsewhere.

No. With all due respect @101G , remember how I said-- I really do think our effort would be more profitably spent elsewhere.

No. Your "numerical difference" and Allow explanation are only confusing. The hand example was getting somewhere.

Your "numerical difference" explanation only served to confuse me-- those I don't remotely follow.

I do follow your examples. However, I don't see how it's different than modalism.

Thank you for the effort, but it doesn't help me understand how your view is essentially different from modalism.

How would you describe your view as being different from modalism?

I don't like arguing either-- despise it actually. So no worries about that from me. The exact relationship between the Father, Son, and Spirit is one that people have many answers. A lot of those times are people just using different words to describe different parts of the elephant -- an...

This is one of those times I smile and nod.

No I do not understand your view.

What you're saying here sounds a lot like modalism.

Correct. Christ doesn't pray to Himself, nor pat Himself on the back with "This is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased". Thanks for clarifying that. Honestly, I'm feeling really lazy right now, but will get you some verses not hat in a bit.

In short: extensive study of the scriptures and prayer. If you're wanting something longer/more specific, would you mind narrowing down your question?

You're wasting your time 101G. Dave worships the Creeds and doesn't want anything else.

The Father and the Son are two different persons. I'm no modalist. Granted, the Son can and on occasion does use the "Father" title. But they are two different persons.

I'm happy to clarify :) 100% do. LDS don't see any special relationship between Christ and Lucifer- despite what some bad sources will tell you. LDS do acknowledge that the Father is the Father of all, so technically that makes everyone brothers and sisters, but it's nothing special. Christ...

Yes, that's part of the many reasons Im an LDS Christian. The core of being a Christian is accepting Christ, the Son of God, as your Savior and Lord. Being His disciple. Past that core you have disagreements on about every subject (as seen on this board). Yes, Catholic Christians...

My beliefs: prophets are always needed. They always proclaim God's words, which includes the encouraging good things and condemning bad stuff.

Hey guys this sounds like a good topic, but would you mind starting a new thread on it?

May God ever be with you :)